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Reply To: The Shipping Harbour- A debate thread

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › General discussion and theories › The Shipping Harbour- A debate thread › Reply To: The Shipping Harbour- A debate thread

November 19, 2013 at 3:55 pm #225132
kfchimera
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Can I just say that I’m gonna present this is a very equal matter so to speak. 

We can all try to be objective, but our subjective points of view that predispose us to think a certain way never leaves us.

I  don’t really want to be a shipper in the sense of losing my ability to be objective and logical, but it is a story and so much depends on interpretation and assumptions.   So as you are a CS shipper, and  suggesting that there is a certain “correct” way to view things, I can only say you come off as less objective to me as someone who leans SF yet acknowledges there may be ambiguity in the story, and many conflicting but entirely rational points of view as a deliberate choice on the part of the authors.

There are many scenes that show Emma and Neal’s thoughts and feelings about each other in the present, not just a reflection of their past.  While the camera does at time cut to Hook,  it does not always.   We  do not just see Hook’s point of view.  We see Neal’s too.  Emma’s point of view though is the one most subject to wildly different interpretations.

Just as there are those dismissive to the point of absurdity about Hook’s point of view saying he just wants some physical fling, there are those who do the same with Neal.  That is hardly being “equal” or fair, and I think rather than waste my time writing out the SF view of all the various scenes presented this season that show a love story for Emma and Neal, not just an obstacle for Hook–I will just link to Screwball Ninja’s latest essay. .She is NOT a CS or SF shipper, is a logical writer, and is funny.  She does ship Rumbelle hard, but you can tell she’s not biased to SF if you read through everything, but she is not biased to CS either.
If anyone genuinely wants to understand SF in a way that does not require you to read a lot of disparaging thoughts on Hook, I might try to write something up that avoids the comparison stuff that tends to get the “water” all choppy, but you can read through SN’s tumblr as she has a few essays on the subject that sum it up fairly well without picking a side.

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