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October 1, 2012 at 6:49 pm #134929
rcaret7z
ParticipantSo, I just decided to check on something because I thought that it would be nice if someone did. Come to find the song is “Charley’s Girl” by Lou Reed – Grooveshark link
I wonder does this elude to the name of this new character? Hmmm… ❓[adrotate group="5"]October 6, 2012 at 9:02 pm #155733LisaFromOH
ParticipantI’m sure they deliberately picked that song for a specific reason, but I sure don’t know what that reason is. I heard/saw somewhere that the song is from an album titled, “Coney Island Baby.” Maybe that too has some relevance?
October 6, 2012 at 10:14 pm #155743rcaret7z
ParticipantI was thinking the same namely because supposedly our mystery man is in New York, or so it seems. I don’t really recall there being a location stamp so other than people familiar with the location being shot, others making mention of a familiar location or just subtle hints of the location via atmosphere relation, I would have never guessed that the location this gentleman was living in was New York. I was doing a little bit of research into who this artist is and hoping it would give way to some kind of identity to our mystery man. Although he does have a good sound, there seemed to be some “odd” controversy surrounding his life. Although it isn’t so surprising, as with some if not most artist of his age, I still find it somewhat “shocking”?
(slightly off the current topic)
I like that it may not have been intended research but that knowing of these things helps to understand what was possibly thought about when the writers were putting their own thoughts and time at producing a script. It might not have anything to do with the story currently unfolding but knowing that others had arrived at a similar thought process, makes it “cool” to a certain degree.October 6, 2012 at 10:52 pm #155748TheGoldenKey
ParticipantThe song is all about a girl named Sharon (Chaley’s girlfriend) who turned them in (most likely for drugs) one New Year’s Eve. Sort of reminds us of Emma being a bail bondsman and turning people in. Thus, it would seem likely, that he is indeed Henry’s father and someone Emma had issues with in the past.
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October 12, 2012 at 1:07 am #156395antbee
Participant@TheGoldenKey wrote:
The song is all about a girl named Sharon (Chaley’s girlfriend) who turned them in (most likely for drugs) one New Year’s Eve. Sort of reminds us of Emma being a bail bondsman and turning people in. Thus, it would seem likely, that he is indeed Henry’s father and someone Emma had issues with in the past.
Yes, I think it was a great song to use to introduce the character because Charley’s Girl could definitely be referring to Emma, and by using that song it gives a glimpse to Mysterious Man’s personality, imo, because he very much seems like one of those kind of guys that loves records and record stores, and has lists and lists about his favorite album, singer, band, etc., very much like the guys from High Fidelity. In fact, I’m getting a very John Cusack vibe so far from this character like a cross between Lloyd Dobler and Rob Gordon mixed in with a little bit of his other characters.
Further, I don’t know if his name will be Charles or some variation, but while thinking what his name here might be, I think he did have a Charlie Brown type of vibe because of how resigned he was to his life not being that great. Of course, I don’t think they could call him Charles Brown or anything like that because of copyright laws, but it would seem to fit him at least in those 90 seconds of screen time.
I actually bumped up this topic though because MysteryKat brought up NoMeansNo’s The Day Everything Became Isolated and Destroyed in the chat last night, and while I saw the “Beauty and the Beast” track, I didn’t really pay attention to the other tracks on that compilation album.
1. “The Day Everything Became Nothing”
2. “Dead Souls”
3. “Forget Your Life”
4. “Beauty And The Beast”
5. “Brother Rat/What Slayde Says”
6. “Dark Ages”
7. “Junk”
8. “And That’s Sad”
9. “Small Parts Isolated And Destroyed”
10. “Victory”
11. “Teresa, Give Me That Knife”
12. “Real Love”
13. “Lonely”Of course, I’m probably reading to much into things, but I thought a lot of the titles not just “Beauty and the Beast” were really spot on with things that have happened or happening now on the show.
Obviously, the title of the album, The Day Everything Became Isolated and Destroyed is just spot with what happened to Fairy Tale Land, the day that Regina enacted the curse. I think song titles 2, 3, and 6 would definitely fit the situation going on after the Curse. Track 9 would fit the small part of the worlds that got left behind after the Curse. Songs 4 and 7 would fit Rumple. Track 8 and13 would cover just about everyone right now. Song 10 could be foreshadowing since the good guys will eventually be victorious, and 12 could be a part of that for the good guys especially Emma and Bae.
I can’t really fit in tracks 5 and 11 without really stretching things, but I have to applaud the behind the scenes people of OUaT for picking that album to use as a clue because it’s very fitting in a lot of ways.
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