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March 13, 2013 at 3:22 am #179553PheeParticipant
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Holy crap I just had a thought!…what if Regina REALLY did find Charming on the side of the road and he didn’t just magically appear in the hospital. In one of the pics it looks like Mary Margaret is seeing him in the hospital for the first time. Maybe there’s this accident with that guy and his kid that leads to the road just outside Storybrooke (going off the title card in another thread and spoilers about a car chase). THAT’S when she finds Charming and she’s all surprised because she thought he was dead…or something…idk. So many theories! Gawd I need this episode naow 😆
Love this idea! Imagine her face when she realises that bugger didn’t really die in FTL.
[adrotate group="5"]March 13, 2013 at 3:29 am #179555heatherc1275ParticipantGosh, those pics just remind me how much I still miss Sheriff Graham. 😥
Love the pic of Henry hugging Emma so tightly but I can’t tell if that’s a good hug or not there. Hopefully it’s a good one and he finally forgives her for lying to him. At least Emma isn’t actively trying to off anyone in town like Regina seems to be right now…. 🙁
#MoreBOOMLessGloomMarch 13, 2013 at 4:43 am #179570kfchimeraParticipant@RumplesGirl wrote:
The father and kid (Kurt and Owen) could have run into Charming’s body and felt they needed to go into town to inform the Sheriff about the almost dead guy on the highway. Charming was so injured in FTL, so near death, that when the Curse hit, he wasn’t healed but left almost in the exact same circumstance. It could explain why Kurt and Owen are going into town.
Clever–would also explain why Regina had put Charming in the hospital rather than killing him. Would have been awkward to do anything else, plus pointless from Regina’s POV if Snow did not remember him to suffer watching him die.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
March 13, 2013 at 8:02 am #179586Killian JonesParticipantI wonder if when David is first brought to the hospital Regina says something to Mary Margaret to kind of test out the curse… You know ask her do you recognize him, have you ever seen him before?
Those pics of Henry, with Regina then with his parents and Charming are really interesting it looks like Henry’s plan is to blow up the well and Regina stops him but then why would he run back to Emma like that? My only thought was that only Henry couldn’t get through to Regina at this point and he ends up turning back to Emma I wonder if something went wrong there.
March 13, 2013 at 12:34 pm #179601RumplesGirlKeymaster@steliokontos1 wrote:
I wonder if when David is first brought to the hospital Regina says something to Mary Margaret to kind of test out the curse… You know ask her do you recognize him, have you ever seen him before?
Those pics of Henry, with Regina then witth his parents and Charming are really interesting it looks like Henry’s plan is to blow up the well and Regina stops him but then why would he run back to Emma like that? My only thought was that only Henry could get through to Regina at this point and if he’s turning back to Emma I wonder if something went wrong there.
I think you’re totally right about that first part, especially if she knows the curse isn’t 100% with the arrival of the outsiders.
Henry running back to Emma after he got through to Regina is what that boy does. Wouldn’t shock me in the slightest."He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 13, 2013 at 11:30 pm #179725DemiletoParticipant@Demileto wrote:
I think it’s more likely that Greg Mendell’s an alias Owen Flynn’s using. Greg’s certainly playing bad Mulder with Storybrooke, I doubt he’d be using his real name as people might remember him from back then.
I bet he lost his father in Storybrooke in mysterious ways (AKA Regina crushed his heart, don’t ask me how that would happen in a magicless town, I have no idea) and he’s been trying to go back find out the truth ever since
I’ve been rethinking this slightly. Maybe Gregowen doesn’t lose his father literally in past Storybrooke, but figuratively. The pictures where Regina holds a heart and then a chest, probably containing it? Maybe that’s not Graham’s heart, as some are thinking, but Kurt’s. She rips his heart out and commands him to leave the town and never to speak of it again. Kurt and his son do, but their once loving and caring relationship is then lost forever. Now heartless, Kurt becomes cold, uncaring and abusive and Gregowen becomes scarred and, after his father’s death reveals he mysteriously had no heart, vengeful. Sounds familiar? The writers love their parallels, I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re having Regina unwittingly turn Gregowen and his father Kurt into the male versions of herself and her mother Cora.
March 13, 2013 at 11:55 pm #179732MysteryKat25Participant@Demileto wrote:
@Demileto wrote:
I think it’s more likely that Greg Mendell’s an alias Owen Flynn’s using. Greg’s certainly playing bad Mulder with Storybrooke, I doubt he’d be using his real name as people might remember him from back then.
I bet he lost his father in Storybrooke in mysterious ways (AKA Regina crushed his heart, don’t ask me how that would happen in a magicless town, I have no idea) and he’s been trying to go back find out the truth ever since
I’ve been rethinking this slightly. Maybe Gregowen doesn’t lose his father literally in past Storybrooke, but figuratively. The pictures where Regina holds a heart and then a chest, probably containing it? Maybe that’s not Graham’s heart, as some are thinking, but Kurt’s. She rips his heart out and commands him to leave the town and never to speak of it again. Kurt and his son do, but their once loving and caring relationship is then lost forever. Now heartless, Kurt becomes cold, uncaring and abusive and Gregowen becomes scarred and, after his father’s death reveals he mysteriously had no heart, vengeful. Sounds familiar? The writers love their parallels, I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re having Regina unwittingly turn Gregowen and his father Kurt into the male versions of herself and her mother Cora.
The only minor problem I have with this line of thinking is the part about discovering his heart was gone. If that’s the case then they would have discovered that with Graham as well and there was specifically a scene where Emma was trying to show him he had a heartbeat (I’m sure she would have noticed if that wasn’t the case at this moment).
So something about stealing enchanted hearts makes them still able to function and go about their lives but doesn’t seem to leave an actual hole in them other than ability to love perhaps. Granted there’s the Cora heart-less “death” scene when she tricked Regina thanks to Hook but I don’t know if she had some spell on her to appear dead or if without a heart she was able to not have the heart beats and that only occurs in a land with magic maybe? Graham was in magic-less SB and Cora was in FTL. So if that’s the way it works the guy would still be outside in a world without magic and the heart thing probably wouldn’t have been discovered if that’s the case. (Did any of that just make sense? I think I’m starting to confuse myself).
To sum up: in a world WITH magic you can tell a heart is gone by lack of beating perhpas? Whereas lands WITHOUT magic the missing heart thing is apparently overlooked / unseeable (kinda like the wooden thing for August: believers see him as wooden, non-believers just see a guy). Either that or somebody realllly screwed up on Graham’s thing – didn’t they think he had a heart attack or something? Granted Regina was probably pulling strings all over the place but still – Emma would have noticed when she put her hand on his chest, right?
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March 13, 2013 at 11:57 pm #179734RumplesGirlKeymasterMy question is, in a land without magic and where Regina can only do very minor things with the help of small trinkets, can she even take a heart?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 13, 2013 at 11:59 pm #179736MysteryKat25ParticipantOoo, good point RumplesGirl! That goes back to the shawl / heart discussion from before so she’d either have to use up a huge reserve of magic (could explain why she’s down to very little later on) or can’t take them to begin with. Graham’s heart was enchanted / pulled in FTL, but I don’t think you can do new magic in a land without magic except for the little bit we saw with her and Jefferson retrieving the apple and that took ever last thing she had left basically to summon up enough magic…hmm.
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March 14, 2013 at 12:01 am #179738RumplesGirlKeymasterI don’t think she could because in this land she can hurt Snow, yet she let MM live, even after Charming woke up and they were having an affair. Also, she never tried to take Emma’s heart, instead she used the apple to poison her.
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