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January 15, 2014 at 7:59 am #237167
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KeymasterThat would feel ret-con-ish to me. When we saw Jefferson and Grace, I got the impression that her mother had been someone he’d been truly in love with and happily married to until something went wrong and he lost her and gave up his work as a result of his grief over it all.
I agree. If Jefferson is involved it wasn’t he who turned her evil.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"January 15, 2014 at 8:46 am #237174kfchimera
ParticipantI had the impression Graces mother was stuck in another world for some reason, lost but not dead. My heartbreaking headcannon was she was Jefferson’s romantic/work partner and became pregnant. He had to do a job for Rumple and bring someone here. His partner waited for him in the other world but unexpectedly she gave birth early to Grace. She insisted that Jefferson and Grace go back to FTL and he come back for her when he can find a way/person willing to trade out. Only he could never find her/the world again by the time he did.
So could adapt it to she turned Wicked…but I agree not likely Stan will return and that his story is mixed in with Wicked. It is fun to speculate what if though.
I like Wicked and the frog better though!
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
January 15, 2014 at 9:07 am #237176RumplesGirl
KeymasterI had the impression Graces mother was stuck in another world for some reason, lost but not dead.
Agreed. Jefferson very specifically says that he “lost” Grace’s mother.
My heartbreaking headcannon was she was Jefferson’s romantic/work partner and became pregnant. He had to do a job for Rumple and bring someone here. His partner waited for him in the other world but unexpectedly she gave birth early to Grace. She insisted that Jefferson and Grace go back to FTL and he come back for her when he can find a way/person willing to trade out. Only he could never find her/the world again by the time he did.
Oh that is heartbreaking. And makes total sense
but I agree not likely Stan will return and that his story is mixed in with Wicked. It is fun to speculate what if though.
It is a long shot. Sebby is quite busy and even though I know they want him back, they might send him to ONCEWL before ONCE because he is the Mad Hatter after all.
It would be odd to see Alice without the Mad Hatter.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"January 15, 2014 at 10:46 am #237190Grimmsister
ParticipantI would find it so funny if they used the princess frog story- because of the Kermit song. and somehow made it so that WWwas turned green because she kissed a magic frog or something, or perhabs she is the frog turned human
But Ialso like the idea of Regina giving her a poisonous apple turning her green.
The Kermit song is about accepting yourself whatever color/person you are. Do the WW not accept herself for what she is? She blames some of the characters we know for what she’s become- green, thats why she wants revenge..
January 15, 2014 at 1:35 pm #237208Marty McFly
ParticipantNotice the color theme. So far we have white, red, gold, blue, and a LOT of green
…..wait… Would cora be purple¿January 15, 2014 at 1:53 pm #237213obisgirl
ParticipantThis is old but kind of relates, if this is the episode where the Wicked Witch of the West becomes green:
@SophLW darkness, like other environmental influences, can alter the genes.
— Jane Espenson (@JaneEspenson) October 14, 2013
January 15, 2014 at 3:05 pm #237225kfchimera
ParticipantGood point Obisgirl!
I’m wondering about Cinder’s speculation here–I guess it is possible that Rumple baby swapped Regina and Wicked. I’m not 100% on board with the idea because they cast Henry and Xavier in a way to align with Lana’s heritage, but who knows. Mader’s very pale (when not green!) with red hair and I suppose Cora had dark red /brown hair and was pale. I’d buy Cora had a 2nd kid, but doubt it was with Rumple, don’t see him going near her again romantically. I could see him getting a deal out of Cora for a 2nd kid though, after whatever events led to Xavier’s kingdom no longer existing/Cora & Henry Sr. no longer being royalty just nobility, which then resulted in some kind of “truce” of sorts that lasted a long time until Regina’s marriage when Rumple saw an opportunity to manipulate and exploit an emotionally vulnerable Regina.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
January 15, 2014 at 3:46 pm #237229RumplesGirl
KeymasterThis is old but kind of relates, if this is the episode where the Wicked Witch of the West becomes green: https://twitter.com/JaneEspenson/statuses/389545847660503041
Hmm. Yeah thanks for that.
I’d buy Cora had a 2nd kid, but doubt it was with Rumple, don’t see him going near her again romantically.
If WickedSisters is true, then I think most likely it’s Oz who is the father.
But I’m still not convinced. I think the tword is too messy.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"January 15, 2014 at 4:01 pm #237235PriceofMagic
ParticipantI’m beginning to have doubts over whether this episode is a WW episode or whether this is a Tinkerbell episode. Normally the villain centrics don’t happen until towards the end of their villain arcs, this episode is happening in the middle of the mini-season
Also Tinkerbell is called Green by Blue. Perhaps this episode shows how Tink got to Neverland or maybe it’s what Tink did that made Blue say she was already on her second chance. Maybe it’s how Tink met PP and supposedly became one of the people he could trust.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixJanuary 15, 2014 at 4:04 pm #237236RumplesGirl
KeymasterI’m beginning to have doubts over whether this episode is a WW episode or whether this is a Tinkerbell episode. Normally the villain centrics don’t happen until towards the end of their villain arcs, this episode is happening in the middle of the mini-season
Cora’s centric was 216 and had one previously, 209. So this is the first of 2 for the WWW with her final death episode being closer to the end of the season, like 321 or 322.
Also Tinkerbell is called Green by Blue. Perhaps this episode shows how Tink got to Neverland or maybe it’s what Tink did that made Blue say she was already on her second chance. Maybe it’s how Tink met PP and supposedly became one of the people he could trust.
She used to call her Green. She stated calling her Tink in 311. Also, Robbie hasn’t been on set in ages. So doubtful.
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