305 Casting Calls!

This could be about Peter Pan instead of Hook

He is a skilled swordsman, rivalling even Captain Hook,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Hook

“Navy” does feel like a familiar, real world term. But really, it’s just a generic term for a maritime war force, so any land/world that has armies can also have navies.

When it comes to seeing an army on the show, it’s pretty much always been George’s. Regina’s got her men in black, but we’ve seen George’s troops in full uniform, wearing the family crest and all. Makes me wonder if perhaps the Navy that Liam was in, also belonged to George’s kingdom, so they can keep that theme going of showing military wearing that crest, to tie it all together?

If young Killian is associated with Liam, (either because they’re family, or just because he was a part of his crew), and they were in the Navy that served George’s kingdom, (several generations before George was alive of course), that would be a way back connection for Hook to the present day Charming family, (who inherited the armed forces of George’s kingdom when they took over).

The castle that George, and then Snowing, live in is completely surrounded by water. Seems it’d be sensible for that kingdom to have a naval fleet, so the castle could be defended from all sides if need be. Also, that castle is an iconic point of reference in the Onceiverse, so if they showed Liam, on a ship, (possibly the JR), with that castle in the background, it’d be a very quick way for them to establish exactly where in FTL that part of the story is taking place, and instantly give it relevance to present day.

I’d never thought about any of this before my previous post, and now that it’s in my brain, I can’t get it out. 😆

Now I really wanna see young Killian sailing past that castle, wearing a uniform with the Charming’s family crest emblazoned on it. Or maybe he’s part of the crew of pirates that overtake one of the kingdom’s ships, and thus assisted in screwing over the Charming’s ancestors, and now here they are depending on him, (and possibly the ship he helped steal from their family back in the day), so heavily in present day.

Maybe Captain Liam was dodgy, serving in the Navy, but secretly privateering for someone else, and he steals the ship, and Killian was his first mate at the time, so he kept him on and they went pirating together. Or if Liam was Killian’s father, again, he was dodgy, and he disappeared because he’d made a deal with pirates, who then overtook the ship, and killed everyone except Killian, who was all angry after having just been abandoned by his father, and was fighting back like he had no care for his own life, and the pirate Captain was impressed by that, and then we can get the Dread Pirate Roberts type situation we’ve previously discussed, to show how Killian became a pirate. And because that’s how he got into that life, that’s where his, “a man unwilling to fight for what he wants, deserves what he gets” mentality comes from.

Could be a fun little nod to PotC if they have the JR, fastest ship in all the realms, having belonged to the Royal Navy until it was overtaken by pirates, just like the Interceptor, fastest ship in the Royal Navy (under the rule of a King George, no less), was overtaken by pirates in PotC. (The same ship they use as the JR was also used as the Interceptor in PotC, which is why my brain went off on that little tangent.)

Were we going to get Charming’s father’s backstory too? What if it ties in to Hook’s backstory? I mean, why would King George be happy with some random peasant’s baby boy?

They have suggested we’ll get more of Charming’s backstory at some point, which I assume will involve his father. His father wouldn’t be old enough to have known Killian though, there’s a 250-odd year gap in there.

I still think Hook concocted that father story to draw out and manipulate Bae. Just as he lied to Belle when he met her, and lied to Aurora too when he “freed” her but really had stolen her heart. He lied to Rumple about Milah when he came to rescue his wife. He lied to Regina to trick her into wearing the cuffs. He can seem really genuine when doing these lies, but that’s why is a good pirate. I’m not sure about his combat skills (Beaten with books, cane, umbrella stand, and a compass), but he is really good at deception and trickery. We’ve seen his sleight of hand over the bean against Rumple, then later Emma. There’s a back-story here I think about how he came to be this way, rather than the brute-force kind of ruffian Pirate.

Also, I don’t see a mid-30’s actor playing against Colin as a father either. A brother or friend, on the other hand, works perfectly. IT could also parallel some betrayal in present day storyline too, if that skeleton key clue was a nod to the storyline in the episode we saw the key.

So I think maybe Hook got the JR by tricking someone, and that might have led to Charming’s ancestors losing their kingdom. Not to Charming’s father himself, but that lineage. Yet it is convoluted really to try to show that, except with a clue like the crests.

If Liam is in Hook’s backstory, it may also be pre-curse but post-NL backstory too–we do not have the story of HIS escape from NL, and how he ended up in Regina’s castle.

Did they say we’ll get to know how he became a pirate, or just backstory in general?