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Vision Belle helped him in 302. Rumple was contemplating taking Pan’s offer and she helped strengthen his resolve to save Henry.
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Keeper of FelixVision Belle helped him in 302. Rumple was contemplating taking Pan’s offer and she helped strengthen his resolve to save Henry.
I agree. I don’t think the Shadow has been playing Rumple the entire time he’s been in NL. I think it’s only in this particular instance in 3×6 when Regina happens upon him that the Shadow is fooling Rumple.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I think it was Rumple’s vision and then the darkness of NL began to consume it. Remember how in the last episode with vision Belle she was very snarky? This is the darkness of NL beginning to consume the goodness of the vision.
I wouldn’t say Belle was Snarky in 304. She even told him that habits can be broken before Rumple told her to go away.
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Keeper of FelixI wouldn’t say Belle was Snarky in 304. She even told him that habits can be broken before Rumple told her to go away.
I think the question is when is it “conscience” Belle and when is it Shadow Belle.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Remember how we all said that she was more like Lacey in that episode than Belle? I guess snarky isn’t the right word but some comments were more jabbing than others.
Crack Theory: Rumple’s father is in the basket next to Neal. Maybe Rumple’s father didn’t abandon his son, maybe he was kidnapped by Pan (for moving on to another son, if Rumple is Pan’s brother) and he kidnapped his own father to get back at him and his younger brother.
Yes!!!! My husband and I were discussing this very theory last night! Wow. How much more twisted would that make Pan? Rumple thinking this entire time his father abandoned him… for over 300 years… wow…
Rumple was the favoured child, Pan got pissed about feeling disowned, and so he arranged for their father to disappear, so little brother would feel just as abandoned as big brother did. This has been my headcanon for a little while now.
Also, it’s interesting that they gave Killian a brother, and sent them to NL, to meet Pan, who only gave Killian half the truth about the cure for the dreamshade, which resulted in his brother dying. I think that was Pan transferring a little of his, “My relationship with my brother FAILED, so I don’t appreciate you Jones brothers being so close, so you must suffer and be torn apart” angst.
–Regina, upset that Snow is still alive, asks Ursula for a favor (because Rumple won’t help her after Skin Deep). Ursula disguises herself as Regina and goes to Ariel with a bargain: if you kill Snow, I’ll make you a human forever to be with your one true love, Eric.
–Ariel won’t do it and Ursula banishes her to NL.
That deal sounds about right to me, though I’m still not quite sure what to make of the ReGursula stuff. Anyway, in Anderson’s version, when the Prince decides to marry someone else, the mermaid’s sisters go to the sea witch and get a dagger. If the mermaid uses that dagger to kill the Prince before sunrise, she’ll return to being a mermaid and live, instead of dying. This could be Once’s twist on that.
Who is Ariel swimming with in the promo? Are we making the assumption it is Snow because they were in the water together right before that? Or could it possibly be Eric?
It’s hard to tell for sure, but I think it’s Snow.
The person underwater has a vest kinda top, with a long sleeve under it, just like Snow. And if you look at the outline of the clothing, the bit that’s just above where the hand is, I think it sorta looks like the rough edge of the fur collar that Snow’s wearing.If vision Belle is the shadow, why has she been helping Rumple and making him feel better, wouldn’t the point be to make Rumple lose hope?
How much has she been strictly helping him though? The way I’ve seen it, she’s been more like a debate partner, presenting the counter arguments, which is keeping him conflicted and confused. He needs to have that other side of the argument voiced, so it’s good that he’s hearing it and considering it from the standpoint of him making the tough choices and ultimately doing the right thing. I’m just saying, that emotional conflict that Rumple’s experiencing due to his conversations with her is throwing him off his game a bit and messing with his head. And that’s the sorta game Pan lives for.
VisionBelle told Rumple that he conjured her himself, not Pan…are we assuming then that is a boldfaced lie? She’s definitely a shadow…the question is whose? The evil shadow we assume is Pan’s? Or Rumple’s himself?
That deal sounds about right to me, though I’m still not quite sure what to make of the ReGursula stuff. Anyway, in Anderson’s version, when the Prince decides to marry someone else, the mermaid’s sisters go to the sea witch and get a dagger. If the mermaid uses that dagger to kill the Prince before sunrise, she’ll return to being a mermaid and live, instead of dying. This could be Once’s twist on that.
Interesting. Cause the press release says that Ariel has fallen madly in love with Eric. Says nothing about Eric being in love with Ariel.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Just read something on tumblr that I think is a very plausible theory, given that the promo seems to reveal that shadows can impersonate people…
What if when Wendy came back to tell Bae that Pan wanted her brothers, that wasn’t Wendy, that was the shadow? Wendy was in Neverland the entire time. Pan had to have known that Bae was there, and he obviously wanted him for his connection to Rumple. So maybe he tricked Bae into sacrificing himself for the Darlings to get him.
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