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308 Flashback details

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Season Three › 3×08 “Think Lovely Thoughts” › 308 Flashback details

  • This topic has 54 replies, 15 voices, and was last updated 11 years, 6 months ago by kfchimera.
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  • November 4, 2013 at 8:37 am #220991
    kfchimera
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    I think a brother in the spinsters is what I prefer, but bio brother might explain why  he needs Henry–he needed his bloodline but maybe Bae was too disillusioned to work?

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    “If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

    November 4, 2013 at 12:02 pm #221045
    TheGoldenKey
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    I’ve also wondered if Pan is not even Rumple’s father.  We all know Rumple has the capability of turning back time as he’s offered to do so for both Smee & Neal.  Why wouldn’t Pan or NL have the same magical capabilities?   Initially, they filmed Colin as running away from debtors and being murdered.  They axed that.  But, what if Colin were poisoned with nightshade and was healed with waters from the healing spring and now forced to stay in NL?  What if Colin, haven’t felt so overwhelmed & burdened with the responsibilities of parenting, wished that he had never grown up and turned back the clock?  Pan has kept Rumple’s childhood doll; when Pan and Rumple first meet, Pan calls him “laddie” (spl??).  Certainly implies an older man talking to a much younger man.   They know so much about each other’s past.  Now we’ve got Pan cooking up Rumple’s favourite breakfast.   Their scenes are just gushing with so much familiarity between them.   So, I’m torn between brothers or father and son.

    Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

    November 4, 2013 at 12:40 pm #221054
    theevilone
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    I am completely torn with the possibilities:

    1. Pan and Rumple are brothers.

    2. To say the truth I did first think that Pan could be Rumplestiltskin’s father.

    But know after last night’s episode the fact that Rumple said that Pan can only die if he dies and the conversation with Pan.  Pan said Rumple cannot see the future because time is frozen and Rumple saying “not if he creates it” makes me think that Pan might be some extension of him that he created as a child that maybe was corrupted by some evil.  An imaginary friend if  you will. Maybe Pan wants Henry because  he being Rumple ‘s grandchild he has inherited a gift from him of creation.

    November 4, 2013 at 3:09 pm #221077
    PriceofMagic
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    I think PP could be Rumple’s STEP-brother or another kid at the spinsters. If Rumple’s father married PP’s mother, PP may not have liked having to share his mother with young Rumple, he saw Rumple as the interloper. Likewise at the spinsters, if Rumple became the spinster’s favourite, then PP would have resented that he was no longer the favourite. He may have felt he was being replaced.

    All magic comes with a price!

    Keeper of Felix
    November 4, 2013 at 4:02 pm #221087
    kfchimera
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    I felt there was a theme of replacing,  in the cave confessions, and in the Shadow talking to Rumple.   I think PP is an older brother who resented his younger brother being born like in the Pan origination story.  I’ve come around to the brothers theory team I guess.  Maybe Rumple’s mommy died at his birth and Pan resented him for it.

    “If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

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