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As far as NealfireBaitGate is concerned, I’m somewhat conflicted. On the one hand, it’s totally true that he’d hate for Henry to be used in the same way. Roland was put into a potentially dangerous situation, and Neal knew where Roland would end up if the plan was a bust, so it was dubious and risky, and ideally he shouldn’t have resorted to that.
On the other hand, Neal resorting to such desperate and less than moral methods to get to his son could be foreshadowing of Neal coming to understand why his own father resorted to such desperate and less than moral methods to get to him. Neal doesn’t want to be his father, he wants to break that cycle of abandonment and abuse, but in order to do that right thing, he ended up doing something that was arguably wrong, and I think that adds some interesting complexity to the character. It’ll hopefully be something they use in upcoming eps as they explore Neal and Rumple’s relationship, and whether or not they can understand each other and reconcile. I think that as long as Neal saw everything his father had done as being straight up reprehensible, it was gonna be hard for the reconciliation to really happen. But now that he himself has been pushed to that brink, and done something that put people, a child no less, in danger, but he was driven by a need to get to people he loves, one of whom he’s wronged and hurt, basically Nealfire has totally just had himself a Rumple moment. So with any luck, this was done as a bit of character development to help Neal eventually see his father in a slightly different light.
Compromising one’s integrity is a theme we’re already seeing with Charming not being honest about his injury and impending death, so it’s interesting to see another character, the guy who hurt Charming’s daughter no less, having a similar lapse in moral judgement. Can the end justify the means is a question we can ask of both of these guys right now. In Neal’s case, he knew the risks, but also had enough knowledge of the Shadow to plan for those risks, so felt justified in taking the chance, and luckily it worked. If Roland still ends up being taken, I’m sure Neal will feel incredibly guilty.
Emma finding out a little bit of Snow’s history and that it wasn’t all sunshine and roses for Snow either.
This was such a brief moment, but I think it’s really important. Emma was rather surprised to learn that her mother had ever lived like that. She thinks they’re so completely different, and Snow doesn’t really understand what life has been like for her, but this was a little glimpse at something they can both relate to, and maybe it’ll be a starting point for them to understand each other more.
6. I liked the Hook and Emma coconut scene.
Hook just chillin’ and punchin’ holes in coconuts made me laugh. Loved it. This is probably that “tropical drink” that Jane mentioned Hook having made a while ago. 😉
[adrotate group="5"]Wow. Normally episode 3 is one of my least favourite episodes of the season but this season so far has been excellent.
Favourite:
All the scenes at PP’s camp. Henry aiming the arrow at PP. I’m liking Henry much better this season than I did in season 2.
Bae being welcomed back to Neverland by Felix. I like Felix.
Tink losing her wings. It was so sad, Blue Fairy was so mean. I’m guessing it’s against the rules for fairies to fall in love hence why Blue split up Nova. Blue’s name isn’t Blue! Fairies come from flowers. Poor Tinkerbell.
The Rumple scene.
Roland’s so cute.
Least Favourite:
Robin Hood making out that Rumple saved Marian and that RH owes Rumple one. If RH owes anybody it’s Belle and it was the wand that saved Marian not Rumple’s magic. All Rumple did was not kill Robin Hood, he didn’t go out of his way to help him. Still love Rumple though.
Robin Hood being Regina’s new true love and that his life was “ruined” by her not meeting him. Really? He has a son he loves and had a wife he loved. Was his life really ruined? I don’t think so. I’m still not entirely on board with RegalHood but we shall see.
Bae using Roland as bait. I’m glad Robin wasn’t happy about the plan and was reluctant to do it. Maybe this is why they are making out that Robin owes Rumple so there would be a reason why RH would agree to let his son be used as bait. Did the shadow not notice Bae had hold of its foot? Would’ve thought it would’ve tried to shake him off or something.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixRobin Hood making out that Rumple saved Marian and that RH owes Rumple one. If RH owes anybody it’s Belle and it was the wand that saved Marian not Rumple’s magic. All Rumple did was not kill Robin Hood, he didn’t go out of his way to help him.
The comment in 301 about Rumple having spared his life, I was willing to fanwank it that he meant, “At least he didn’t kill me on sight, which made it possible for me to escape.” But, yeah, unless we get some more info about that wand at some point, he can’t really hold Rumple responsible for having saved Marian’s life. I think you’re probably right and they’re just twisting things a bit to give Robin a reason for going along with Neal’s plan.
Robin Hood being Regina’s new true love and that his life was “ruined” by her not meeting him. Really? He has a son he loves and had a wife he loved. Was his life really ruined? I don’t think so.
I don’t think his life was actually ruined. Tink wouldn’t be aware that he went on to have a wife and child though, so she’s basically assuming that because Regina’s life went to hell when they didn’t meet, his life must have as well.
I wonder if part of having Robin agree to Neal’s plan might be that he now understands what it’s like to have your actions put your child in a perilous situation, which is something Regina knows about all too well.
Blue’s name isn’t Blue!
Noticed that too. It’s the obvious conclusion after Blue calls Tink “Green” twice until Tink protests that her name’s “Tinker Bell”.
I wonder why Nova was called Nova and not Pink. Perhaps Blue’s real name is Silvermist- the Blue Fairy from the Tinkerbell movies.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixI really liked just about everything inthis episode, starting with the opening title sequence of Tink flying around the titles in a way that was so reminiscent of the opening scene of Disney’s Wonderful World of Color. My favorite part was theTink-Regina relationship and seeing how it formed one more step in Regina’s path to becoming the Evil Queen.
I agree with Phee’s comment:
that Neal’s use of Roland might be foreshadowing of him coming to better understand his father. I also agree that it serves as another example of the recurring theme of questionable moral choices for all the characters. I have a hunch Pan is going to try to manipulate all the characters into making bad choices. But I also believe that Neal didn’t believe he was putting Roland into any significant danger. Neal had experience saving a kid from the shadow when it took him from the Darlings, so he was reasonably confident that he could do it again
PriceofMagic wrote: Blue’s name isn’t Blue!
Noticed that too. It’s the obvious conclusion after Blue calls Tink “Green” twice until Tink protests that her name’s “Tinker Bell”.
Yeah I noticed that too. Is Blue a title? How do fairies get assigned colors?
Neal doesn’t want to be his father, he wants to break that cycle of abandonment and abuse, but in order to do that right thing, he ended up doing something that was arguably wrong, and I think that adds some interesting complexity to the character.
Desperate souls do desperate things. Rumple, Regina, Hook….we can even talk about Snow and Charming needing so desperatly to believe that good always wins that they are “infuriatingly optimistic” and at time naivee. And please don’t misunderstand, I’m not trying to sweep what Nealfire did under the rug, I don’t do that because if you do that then you’re taking away from character. But I do think that it’s the desperation coming out. Does that make it right? No. Does it make it wrong? Yes but to how great a degree. Mulan was there and clearly approved of the plan though she didn’t need to be guilted into through life debts; both Robin and Little John were there; Nealfire has lots of experience with the shadow to know how to combat it. I think this is very Rumple of him and that’s the drama they’re trying to set up.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Favorites:
Blue and “Green”, and how Sneaky Fairy lives, with Blue doing what she does the way she does it!
Tink in general, she was perfect!
Roast Swan
Reveal of Regina’s pixie-dust love connection– we so called that! ReHooooooo! Question though, has fate changed from what it would have been at that time? Has Regina become such a different person that she can no longer be true soul-mates with Robin, or was it the case that had she gone in there they would not yet be right, and will be down the road? So many ways they could write that.
Snow revealing she has not always been a pampered princess. (I wonder why she doesn’t just tell Emma about her own sad experiences, but then I guess it would smack of the whole “I had it worse, uhill both ways” thing, because while she did have loving parents for awhile, she then ended up with someone actively trying to kill her and having murdered those loving parents).
Least Favorites:
Charming not telling Snow
Neal’s plan to get to NL
So about Neal’s plan, I agree with what RG and Phee say here. This tarnished what could have been a shining moment for him, but I agree it is setting him up to be able to understand his father’s desperation better. As RG said, we have seen many characters do questionable things, some outright bad acts and more gray situations like Snow using the candle to kill Cora or Charming shooting a cannon at the Mermaids, being willing to threaten to fillet until Snow chided him, and in my opinion, letting Regina go free and risking the entire town to save her.
We have to remember Mulan searched with Emma and Snow for a portal and knew that there really were not an abundance of ways to travel between realms. Neal did come up with the plan quickly, did remind Robin of the debt, but Mulan and the others also went along, plus Mulan did have her magic sword. There were three adults. Neal knew very well what the Shadow was like, and I thought you had to go willingly with the Shadow, which was how Bae made a deal with it to take just him, not the Darling boys as a child. If the Shadow were unstoppable, I do not think Neal would have risked Roland but he was fairly sure they would be able to stop it. I also noted that Neal was worried enough about Roland being safe that he almost missed catching the Shadow. Mulan yells at him to go and then he jumps OUT of the window to get to it. Still not my favorite moment, but it did highlight Robin’s bravery, though why they would have the boy sleep under the same window seems like more than infuriating optimism but conviction in goodness like Belle, (maybe that is why he’d fall for Regina, despite her reputation and history?)
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
“I don’t like apples…it’s a family thing.” That was classic. Love the little quips they are throwing in, moreso this year than before, or so it seems.
Reveal of Regina’s pixie-dust love connection– we so called that! ReHooooooo! Question though, has fate changed from what it would have been at that time? Has Regina become such a different person that she can no longer be true soul-mates with Robin, or was it the case that had she gone in there they would not yet be right, and will be down the road? So many ways they could write that.
I was thinking, what would have happened if she’d gone into that tavern to pick up her soulmate? She’s the newly married Queen, and would be flirting with a guy in a pub. That would not have gone down well. Would Robin have been up for having an affair with the Queen? Would Leopold have put Regina on an even tighter lockdown than she already was? No matter how it played out, people would have hated her and she’d have got a bad rep…so perhaps that was also an unavoidable part of her fate. And now they actually will meet, at a time when they’ve both been able to put their lost loves and pain behind them. I think the time they were meant to be together was always in the future.
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