3×11 – Going Home – Promo

[RumplesGirl]

The smoke we see bubbling up is green. The smoke we see rolling past the clock tower is purple. Maybe the green smoke doesn’t even have anything to do with the NewCurse? Maybe that’s gonna be a thing at the end where Rebecca Mader’s character shows up? If she’s WWW, then green smoke would totally fit.

Anyway, the whatever that is that’s coming from Regina, I think has to be a counter-NewCurse attempt of some sort. If the NewCurse would send everyone back where they came from, then it’d take both her and Emma away from Henry, (actually it’d take everyone in his family away, and leave him totally alone), and she’s not gonna just let that happen without attempting to stop it.

Good point. Which means that the purple smoke is more like TL smoke than Curse smoke

I agree with Kranen, it looks like Regina is taking a page fro her mum.

[Killian Jones]

Ok to cast the dark curse it’s sacrificing the thing they love most Pan loves himself most so I think that’s gonna come into play here.

[PriceofMagic]

Slightly worried for Felix’s well-being at this stage, but I agree, Pan loves himself the most so I think it is Rumple killing him that will cast the curse.

All magic comes with a price!

Keeper of Felix

[swanning-off]

Think Felix (and his unwavering loyalty to Pan) is on borrowed time.

Is Pan in that clip with Rumple PanPan or HenryPan? I’m guessing PanPan because of the magical shove.

So let’s do a headcount. If a New Curse would send everyone back to where they came from:

• Dwarves = Enchanted Forest
• Regina = Enchanted Forest
• Ariel = the Ocean
• Eric = some kingdom in FTL
• Granny (and Red!) = EF
• Jiminy = EF
• Emma = EF, if “where they came from” is “where you were born” and not where you grew up
• Nealfire = EF, but see as for Emma
• the Darlings = wherever their version of London is, so… our world?
• Henry = Storybrooke!
• Pan = EF/Neverland?
• Felix = probably dead so never mind
• Lost Boys = mix of our world, EF, other worlds. Either way, they’re up a certain creek without a canoe…
• Dr Frankenstein = Land Without Colour

Etc. So it’s not as simple as everyone but Henry will go back to the Enchanted Forest, because not everyone is from the Enchanted Forest, nor do we know the parameters of “where you’re from”.

[Phee]

Ok to cast the dark curse it’s sacrificing the thing they love most Pan loves himself most so I think that’s gonna come into play here.

Perhaps he’ll try using Felix to cast the NewCurse, thinking it will work, the same way that Regina thought that using her horse would work for her. But it won’t work, because the thing that Pan loves most is himself.

[PriceofMagic]

I fear that may be the case, though I’m hoping Felix doesn’t die. He didn’t look too pleased at PanHenry calling for him to be put in jail.

All magic comes with a price!

Keeper of Felix

[RumplesGirl]

I think Felix is the equivalent of Regina’s horse. It may be loyal and you think it will work, but in the end there is something Pan loves much more. So yes, I think Felix will probably be offered up to the Curse but it won’t work.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[wizardessofAZ]

Green smoke totally makes me think OZ!!  Maybe Pan and WWW are in alliance somehow so that even though Pan is going, she shows up and exacts his revenge.  Can’t stop thinking about a connection there because Pan’s clothing does contain significant green content.

 

Phee wrote: The smoke we see bubbling up is green. The smoke we see rolling past the clock tower is purple. Maybe the green smoke doesn’t even have anything to do with the NewCurse? Maybe that’s gonna be a thing at the end where Rebecca Mader’s character shows up? If she’s WWW, then green smoke would totally fit. Anyway, the whatever that is that’s coming from Regina, I think has to be a counter-NewCurse attempt of some sort. If the NewCurse would send everyone back where they came from, then it’d take both her and Emma away from Henry, (actually it’d take everyone in his family away, and leave him totally alone), and she’s not gonna just let that happen without attempting to stop it.

Good point. Which means that the purple smoke is more like TL smoke than Curse smoke I agree with Kranen, it looks like Regina is taking a page fro her mum.

[lisas]

Let’s take what we know about the original curse that Rumple designed & Regina cast

1. There was a true love safety valve on the parchment Rumple told Emma & Regina this in Episode 1×22
2. Emma being the product of True Love was able to break the curse originally. Rumple said last night in 3×10 that without Emma’s parents True Love woven into it that even Emma would be powerless to break it.
3. The curse originally ripped everyone away from the Enchanted Forest brought them to Storybrooke where they didn’t know each other and had new identities and there was no magic and time stood still for 28 years until Emma broke the curse with True Love’s kiss by kissing Henry’s forehead and admitting to herself & telling Henry that she loved him when he was under the the sleeping curse.
4. In order to enact the curse Regina needed the heart of the thing she loved the most which as we know was her father
5. The curse in the Enchanted Forest that Regina cast was a cloud of black smoke that engulfed the land
6. When Emma retrieved the true love potion after killing Malificent in her dragon form Rumple dropped the potion into the well to bring Magic to Storybrooke which caused a purple cloud to engulf the entire town.

Now Let’s take what we know about Pan wanting to recast the is curse

1. They are all already in this land
2. Without Snow & Charming’s True Love woven into the curse this time Emma would be powerless to break it. Which means in my opinion She & Henry, Neal,etc would be all at the mercy of the curse just like everyone else in the enchanted forest was 28 years ago
3. Pan say’s that everyone would forget who they are & that time would stand still and they he & Felix would be in charge and Storybrooke would become The New Neverland.
4. We know Pan needs the heart of the thing he loves most I have to believe it would be himself or Rumple or Felix

Now what we know from the promo
1. Peter Pans Final act of Vengeance could destroy one of their own (Wide Shot) of Rumple & Pan in the shop, Rumple going to attack Pan Pan using magic to knock Rumple back
2. Grumpy running saying it’s here
3. The narrarator says Unleash a curse WS of Green cloud of smoke coming out of the woods
4. Every is in what appears to be a church and Charming tells everyone to run
5. A shot of the purple cloud of True Love coming through Storybrooke and The narrator saying will change the face of Storybrooke in ways no one could imagine
6. Shot of Belle Crying
7. Shot of the Charmings, Emma & Henry embracing
8. Regina saying Everyone will go back to where they’re from
9 a shot of Emma & Hook looking at each other, then a shot of Snow with her mouth covered, Charming, Emma, Neal
10. Grumpy telling our core cast that the curse is on all sides of them & everyone of the core cast plus Grumpy are in the center of Storybrooke

Now let’s add in the set pics

Pan confronts everyone including Henry in the center of town (Which means they are able to successfully put Henry back in his own body)
Pan & Rumple have a confrontation in the center of town
Rumple stabs Pan with the Dark One Dagger
Pan reverts to his real age as Malcolm & Rumple stabs him once again with the Dark One Dagger

Taking all of these things into account plus we know about the prophecy of Rumple’s undoing and the set pics of 312 of FTL & NYC

I’m going to throw a theory out here
1. That Pan will take Felix’s heart thinking it will unleash the curse but it doesn’t
2. So he figures it’s his own heart and stages a confrontation with everyone on the pretense of still being after Henry knowing that everyone and Rumple will want to protect Henry & stop him. Rumple wanting to protect Henry stabs Pan with the Dark One Dagger, in doing that Pan becomes Malcom again and Rumple once again stabs him with the Dark One Dagger
3. Pan’s Life is somehow binded to Rumple’s which would explain why killing Pan would kill Rumple at the same time.
So here is where my theory gets interesting

I think by Rumple using the Dark One Dagger to kill Pan it enacts the curse and strips him of the Dark One Curse but it doesn’t kill him. With the curse being recast in Storybrooke this time it takes them all home to present day Enchanted Forest which could explain why we see Philip & Auroua running in the set the pics & then we get to see flashbacks to Storybrooke during pre & post Regina curse giving us a reverse of what the curse was in seasons 1 & 2 and the first half of Season 3.

I think the set pics of FTL could be real & NYC possibly fake or a flashforward with a adult Henry

thoughts anyone

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[RumplesGirl]

Let’s take what we know about the original curse that Rumple designed & Regina cast 1. There was a true love safety valve on the parchment Rumple told Emma & Regina this in Episode 1×22
2. Emma being the product of True Love was able to break the curse originally. Rumple said last night in 3×10 that without Emma’s parents True Love woven into it that even Emma would be powerless to break it.
3. The curse originally ripped everyone away from the Enchanted Forest brought them to Storybrooke where they didn’t know each other and had new identities and there was no magic and time stood still for 28 years until Emma broke the curse with True Love’s kiss by kissing Henry’s forehead and admitting to herself & telling Henry that she loved him when he was under the the sleeping curse.
4. In order to enact the curse Regina needed the heart of the thing she loved the most which as we know was her father
5. The curse in the Enchanted Forest that Regina cast was a cloud of black smoke that engulfed the land
6. When Emma retrieved the true love potion after killing Malificent in her dragon form Rumple dropped the potion into the well to bring Magic to Storybrooke which caused a purple cloud to engulf the entire town. Now Let’s take what we know about Pan wanting to recast the is curse 1. They are all already in this land
2. Without Snow & Charming’s True Love woven into the curse this time Emma would be powerless to break it. Which means in my opinion She & Henry, Neal,etc would be all at the mercy of the curse just like everyone else in the enchanted forest was 28 years ago
3. Pan say’s that everyone would forget who they are & that time would stand still and they he & Felix would be in charge and Storybrooke would become The New Neverland.
4. We know Pan needs the heart of the thing he loves most I have to believe it would be himself or Rumple or Felix Now what we know from the promo
1. Peter Pans Final act of Vengeance could destroy one of their own (Wide Shot) of Rumple & Pan in the shop, Rumple going to attack Pan Pan using magic to knock Rumple back
2. Grumpy running saying it’s here
3. The narrarator says Unleash a curse WS of Green cloud of smoke coming out of the woods
4. Every is in what appears to be a church and Charming tells everyone to run
5. A shot of the purple cloud of True Love coming through Storybrooke and The narrator saying will change the face of Storybrooke in ways no one could imagine
6. Shot of Belle Crying
7. Shot of the Charmings, Emma & Henry embracing
8. Regina saying Everyone will go back to where they’re from
9 a shot of Emma & Hook looking at each other, then a shot of Snow with her mouth covered, Charming, Emma, Neal
10. Grumpy telling our core cast that the curse is on all sides of them & everyone of the core cast plus Grumpy are in the center of Storybrooke Now let’s add in the set pics Pan confronts everyone including Henry in the center of town (Which means they are able to successfully put Henry back in his own body)
Pan & Rumple have a confrontation in the center of town
Rumple stabs Pan with the Dark One Dagger
Pan reverts to his real age as Malcolm & Rumple stabs him once again with the Dark One Dagger Taking all of these things into account plus we know about the prophecy of Rumple’s undoing and the set pics of 312 of FTL & NYC I’m going to throw a theory out here
1. That Pan will take Felix’s heart thinking it will unleash the curse but it doesn’t
2. So he figures it’s his own heart and stages a confrontation with everyone on the pretense of still being after Henry knowing that everyone and Rumple will want to protect Henry & stop him. Rumple wanting to protect Henry stabs Pan with the Dark One Dagger, in doing that Pan becomes Malcom again and Rumple once again stabs him with the Dark One Dagger
3. Pan’s Life is somehow binded to Rumple’s which would explain why killing Pan would kill Rumple at the same time.
So here is where my theory gets interesting I think by Rumple using the Dark One Dagger to kill Pan it enacts the curse and strips him of the Dark One Curse but it doesn’t kill him. With the curse being recast in Storybrooke this time it takes them all home to present day Enchanted Forest which could explain why we see Philip & Auroua running in the set the pics & then we get to see flashbacks to Storybrooke during pre & post Regina curse giving us a reverse of what the curse was in seasons 1 & 2 and the first half of Season 3. I think the set pics of FTL could be real & NYC possibly fake or a flashforward with a adult Henry thoughts anyone

Nicely summerized. I thnk the FTL and NYC shots of 312 are the after effects of the Curse. I don’t think any of that really happpens, but it’s a sort of AU/dream state caused by the new curse. but when 312 end, everyone is still in SB. No one is actually leaving.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

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