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December 13, 2013 at 2:21 pm #230313SlurpeezParticipant
I’m going to need ice cream. Lots of it. Aren’t I?
I suspect so!
I just had another thought. What if the flashback to FTL during the time of “Skin Deep” is a result of the dark curse being released again? What if this time, instead of robbing everybody of their FTL identities, the consequence is them getting new FTL memories of “what might’ve been?” What if Rumple had told Belle about his son Bae? Would Belle have helped Rumple find some alternative way to locate his son other than the dark curse? Would Bae have returned to the EF and grown into a man along side his father? Would Neal and Hook have been real friends, not competitors? Would Regina have married Robin Hood? Would Emma have grown up with her parents in the Enchanted Forest if Rumple had abandoned his scheme of the dark curse? Would Henry never have been born since Neal would’ve been an adult when Emma was born?
[adrotate group="5"]"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
December 13, 2013 at 2:25 pm #230316RumplesGirlKeymasterI just had another thought. What if the flashback to FTL during the time of “Skin Deep” is a result of the dark curse being released again? What if this time, instead of robbing everybody of their FTL identities, the consequence is them getting new FTL memories of “what might’ve been?” What if Rumple had told Belle about his son Bae? Would Belle have helped Rumple find some alternative way to locate his son other than the dark curse? Would Bae have returned to the EF and grown into a man along side his father? Would Neal and Hook have been real friends, not competitors? Would Regina have married Robin Hood? Would Emma have grown up with her parents in the Enchanted Forest if Rumple had abandoned his scheme of the dark curse? Would Henry never have been born since Neal would’ve been appeared to be in his 20s when Emma was born?
Wow. That’s a good idea. So then 312 is an AU of sorts…except Emma in NYC with Hook with Snow pregnant in EF?
*sigh* this is going to be a very long three months.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 13, 2013 at 2:27 pm #230318SlurpeezParticipantWow. That’s a good idea. So then 312 is an AU of sorts…except Emma in NYC with Hook with Snow pregnant in EF?
So in order for this theory to work, it’s just their FTL memories which have been tweaked, not the actual history of FTL. That means that the scenes for 3×12 are an AU, but not what’s actually happening. It’s just what the people from the EF think happened. Meanwhile, everybody is really walking around in a daze, including Emma, only she’s in NYC with Henry and Hook not knowing who the heck she really is.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
December 13, 2013 at 2:33 pm #230320RumplesGirlKeymasterRumplesGirl wrote: Wow. That’s a good idea. So then 312 is an AU of sorts…except Emma in NYC with Hook with Snow pregnant in EF?
So in order for this theory to work, it’s just their FTL memories which have been tweaked, not the actual history of FTL. That means that the scenes for 3×12 are an AU, but not what’s actually happening. It’s just what the people from the EF think is happening. Meanwhile, everybody is really walking around in a daze, including Emma, only she’s in NYC with Henry and Hook not knowing who the heck she really is.
Ahhhh. That’s good. I like that. So when the AU ends, are the FTL people still in SB, they were just “dreaming” the whole time (except not dreaming…).
But what about Hook. He’s in both places. Are they all in both places?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 13, 2013 at 2:36 pm #230322SlurpeezParticipantBut what about Hook. He’s in both places. Are they all in both places?
So, the flashbacks to EF wouldn’t be happening in the present. They’d have “happened in the past” even though they didn’t really happen. The residents of EF would just think those things happened, but they remain in SB or even venture into the rest of the world (e.g. Hook and Emma). That would free up Hook to really be in NYC with Emma and would mean he’s not actually in two places at once (which seems quite impossible).
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
December 13, 2013 at 2:41 pm #230323RumplesGirlKeymasterRumplesGirl wrote: But what about Hook. He’s in both places. Are they all in both places?
So, the flashbacks to EF wouldn’t be happening in the present. They’d have “happened in the past” even though they didn’t really happen. The residents of EF would just think those things happened, but they remain in SB or even venture into the rest of the world (e.g. Hook and Emma). That would free up Hook to really be in NYC with Emma and would mean he’s not actually in two places at once (which seems quite impossible).
WOW
Ok. I think I’m getting this. Let’s see if I got this:
–The EF shots we have are an AU flashback that NEVER really happened but everyone in SB (who are cursed again) THINKS happened. So Neal is most likely in SB thinking that he came home from NL as a young boy after Rumple and Belle rescued him and he grew up in FTL.
–So Regina and Snow: maybe not mortal enemies. And in the “past” Regina thinks she is married to RH.
–So then does Emma have to come back to SB and rebreak the curse?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 13, 2013 at 2:45 pm #230325SlurpeezParticipantWOW
Ok. I think I’m getting this. Let’s see if I got this:
–The EF shots we have are an AU flashback that NEVER really happened but everyone in SB (who are cursed again) THINKS happened. So Neal is most likely in SB thinking that he came home from NL as a young boy after Rumple and Belle rescued him and he grew up in FTL.
–So Regina and Snow: maybe not mortal enemies. And in the “past” Regina thinks she is married to RH.
Yes! That is basically the implication of the new curse, in a nutshell. Their fairytale land identities are preserved, just altered. Everybody remains in our world in the present day, either in SB or NYC, but we get FTL flashbacks of “what might have been” but wasn’t really.
–So then does Emma have to come back to SB and rebreak the curse?
Possibly. I haven’t worked out exactly how the new curse would impact Emma. If she thinks she grew up in EF, what does that mean for her now? Does she even know who she is or does the curse give her a new alter-ego since she was never cursed to being with? What about Henry? How would Emma explain the existence of Henry if she thinks she grew up in EF?
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
December 13, 2013 at 2:51 pm #230328RumplesGirlKeymasterPossibly. I haven’t worked out exactly how the new curse would impact Emma. If she thinks she grew up in EF, what does that mean for her now? Does she even know who she is or does the curse give her a new alter-ego since she was never cursed to being with? What about Henry? How would Emma explain the existence of Henry if she thinks she grew up in EF?
One more thing.
If Hook is cursed to thinking that he’s just Killian Jones, resident of SB again, and the past AU is not real and Emma isn’t born yet, then why does Hook leave SB to go to NYC with/to see Emma with a potion in hand?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 13, 2013 at 2:57 pm #230334SlurpeezParticipantIf Hook is cursed to thinking that he’s just Killian Jones, resident of SB again, and the past AU is not real and Emma isn’t born yet, then why does Hook leave SB to go to NYC with/to see Emma with a potion in hand?
Wait and see I guess, since I’m pretty sure the answer to this question will be hinted at by the end of 3×11. Maybe Hook just sees a pretty lady, Emma, and wants to help her. He might even recognize her as little Emma, whom he saw grow up, according to his altered FTL identity. To Emma, Hook has become like “uncle Killian” since she would think of him as being her parents’ generation, not her own. Emma would think the same way about Neal, by the way, since she would think of him as an uncle figure, too, perhaps. Thus the love triangle would be put on hold.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
December 13, 2013 at 3:10 pm #230341RumplesGirlKeymasterRumplesGirl wrote: If Hook is cursed to thinking that he’s just Killian Jones, resident of SB again, and the past AU is not real and Emma isn’t born yet, then why does Hook leave SB to go to NYC with/to see Emma with a potion in hand?
Wait and see I guess, since I’m pretty sure the answer to this question will be hinted at by the end of 3×11. Maybe Hook just sees a pretty lady, Emma, and wants to help her. He might even recognize her as little Emma, whom he saw grow up, according to his altered FTL identity. To Emma, Hook has become like “uncle Killian” since she would think of him as being her parents’ generation, not her own. Emma would think the same way about Neal, by the way, since she would think of him as an uncle figure, too, perhaps. Thus the love triangle would be put on hold.
that’s possible. If he knows her as just “the daughter of Snow and Charming, whom I helped raise” (same with Neal) then he wants her to come home, but all romance (for both sides) is at a standstill.
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