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November 14, 2013 at 6:59 pm #223900lunatigerParticipant
I’m literally dancing a jig here. I’m hoping this is the Nealfire centric episode I’ve been waiting for since he’s the only character closely tied to New York then the rest. Will it be present day or past? Or both? Ugh it’s gonna be a torturous long wait!!! I’m gonna need as many spoilers as possible to tie me down during the hiatus.
Hmmm…do you think they will shoot it in New York? Do they even have the budget? I kinda like that they did that in 2×01. (Since I’m a native New Yorker) But then again it may not be based in New York at all. Ok I’m just rambling now, since I’m just so excited. 🙂
[adrotate group="5"]November 14, 2013 at 7:09 pm #223903SlurpeezParticipantHmmm…do you think they will shoot it in New York? Do they even have the budget? I kinda like that they did that in 2×01. (Since I’m a native New Yorker) But then again it may not be based in New York at all. Ok I’m just rambling now, since I’m just so excited.
The scenes for Neal in “Broken” were actually filmed on location in NYC. However, the scenes for “Manhattan” were actually filmed in Vancouver, BC.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
November 14, 2013 at 7:09 pm #223904HappyEndingsSpectatorS
So I just looked at what else Adam tweeted, and he tweeted along with it, #savehenry #notwhatyouthink #springsteen
Springsteen has a song called New York City Serenade, and maybe he just put that in there to throw us off, but I was looking at the lyrics, and found these amusing:
She’s afraid them tracks are gonna slow her down,
And when she turns this boy’ll be gone
So long, sometimes you just gotta walk on.Here are the words to the song:
Billy, he’s down by the railroad tracks, sittin’ low in the back seat of his
Cadillac,
Diamond Jackie, she’s so intact, she falls so softly beneath him,
Jackie’s heels are stacked, Billy’s got cleats on his boots,
Together they’re gonna boogaloo down Broadway and come back home with the loot,
It’s midnight in Manhattan, this is no time to get cute, it’s a mad dog’s
promenade,
So walk tall, or baby don’t walk at all.
Fish lady, fish lady, fish lady she baits them tenement walls,
She won’t take cornerboys, ain’t got no money, and they’re so easy,
I said, “Hey baby won’t you take my hand, walk me down Broadway,
I’m a young man and I talk real loud, yeah, baby walk real proud for you.
So shake it away, so shake away your street life, shake away your city life,
And hook up to the train, hook up to the night train, hook it up hook up to the, hook up to the train,
But I know that she won’t take the train, no she won’t take the train,
No she won’t take the train, no she won’t take the train
She’s afraid them tracks are gonna slow her down,
And when she turns this boy’ll be gone
So long, sometimes you just gotta walk on.Hey vibes man, hey jazz man play me your serenade
Any deeper blue and you’re playin’ in your grave
Save your notes, don’t spend ’em on the blues boy,
Save your notes, don’t spend ’em on the darlin’ yearlin’ sharp boy,
Straight for the church note ringin’, vibes man sting a trash can
Listen to your junk man, listen to your junk man,
Listen to your junk man, listen to your junk man,
He’s singin’, singin’, singin’, singin’.
All dressed up in satin, walkin’ past the alley.
Watch out for you junk man, watch out for your junk man,
Watch out for your junk man.November 14, 2013 at 7:19 pm #223907Killian JonesParticipantI like how often “hook” shows up in the song lol
November 14, 2013 at 7:24 pm #223908SlurpeezParticipantI like the line: “I know she won’t take that train.” However, I don’t think we can put too much stock into the lyrics because a “fish lady” is just another word for a prostitute, who stereotypically wears fish-net stockings. So, while titles of songs might inspire Adam and Eddy in terms of episode titles, the lyrics may not have much, if any bearing, on what to expect in any given episode.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
November 14, 2013 at 9:03 pm #223914HappyEndingsSpectatorSomeone stated this:
My first thought too, except there’s a hashtag “notwhatyouthink“. Hmm…
So maybe it isn’t about Neal/Hook but perhaps it just about Emma?
November 14, 2013 at 9:17 pm #223925RumplesGirlKeymasterSomeone stated this:
My first thought too, except there’s a hashtag “notwhatyouthink“. Hmm…
So maybe it isn’t about Neal/Hook but perhaps it just about Emma?
Or maybe it’s about Neal/Hook and not about Emma at all.
But like Slurpeez said, these songs often create moods or themes instead of plot.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 14, 2013 at 10:29 pm #223949PheeParticipantJust think! We have till March to ponder this title’s meaning! Why, oh, why did they have to release it. I would have been happier without it. 👿
Life can be so cruel sometimes. *sigh*
Listening to the song, I can almost see Neal scenes play out in my head, when he first gets to NYC and is trying to find his feet. The #notwhatyouthink thing is curious though, because he probably figured that everyone would instantly jump to the conclusion that this will be about Neal in NYC. Maybe they’re pulling another Tallahassee and the city in the title won’t actually be seen in the ep? Maybe it could be Neal’s life between Emma and NYC, when he was choosing a new city to turn into his dream instead of Tallahassee, and he’s heard all about NYC and the idea of it is seducing, (serenading) him.
November 14, 2013 at 11:32 pm #223963kfchimeraParticipantWhat if instead it has to do with revealing the “boss” of whatever curse comes next? We assume it is about New York, and Neal, but it could be about say characters we have not yet met. I like the idea though it would contain some backstory on Neal, and how he got to NY, along side some story of how everyone tries to get somewhere (Emerald City in Oz?!) that has a similar lure to it.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
November 15, 2013 at 1:38 am #223974HappyEndingsSpectatorPerhaps they mean that Emma or who ever isn’t a lady/man of the night? :shrug:
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