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February 15, 2014 at 12:13 pm #245164TheGoldenKeyParticipant
Carry on Wayward Son was written by 70’s band member Kerry Livgren. In fact, it was Livgren who was responsible for putting Kansas on the charts with hits like that and Dust in the Wing. Kerry left the band shortly after having became a devoted Christians. His lyrics kept reflecting his spiritual views and caused fighting & tension among the other band members. If any of you read my short story about having seen them perform, you’d understand that’s why a few founding members don’t look on these songs with any warmth or appreciation. Bad way of thinking in my mind.
Kerry was on a spiritual search when he wrote the song. That’s what the song is all about. What is life & where/who is God? It’s also a continuation from another song “The Pinnacle” off their previous album. One important line from The Pinnacle is: I stood where no man goes, above the din I rose. Din means loud/confusion/inharmonious. So, in Carry On Wayward, when they sing “Once I rose above the noise and confusion” Livgren is referring to The Pinnacle.
Because of this, I believe that Gorham is someone on a spiritual path or has completed his spiritual path and is trying to set things right in all worlds affected by The Curse. For me that can either mean the Wizard of Oz or Merlin. Preferable the former or maybe he’s a combination of both. He’s showing up when it’s important to be showing up and providing guidance to help “goodness” along to a win. He’s Emma’s spiritual angel without her knowing it.
I also believe that my original post about Patrick Walsh(e) was another clue pointing us to Gorham being the Wizard of Oz as I stated earlier that Pat Walsh(e) played the head Winged Monkey, in the 1939 film, The Wizard of Oz. They seem to be screaming out to us that he’s from OZ and he’s The Wizard.
I think they are portraying Gorham as a younger version of The Wizard, played by Christopher Lloyd, in the movie, The Witches of Oz. Lloyd played that part and he kept showing up in New York City, helping Dorothy along, helping her remember who she was and helping her in making the right connections and decisions. Again, representation of a wizard who is good and kind and honest. He knows that many worlds need to be set be right and he’s helping/pushing the game along.
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February 15, 2014 at 12:19 pm #245165SlurpeezParticipantHere is some more research about a man named Townsend Walsh, who was a theatrical press agent and business manager who promoted L. Frank Baum’s story “The Wzard of Oz” in the New York theater from 1902-1906:
Throughout his life, Townsend Walsh was involved with the American theatre in a variety of capacities–press agent, business manager, drama critic, playwright, collector, theatre and circus historian and sometime actor. Born in Albany, New York in 1872, to Augustus Henry and Laura Spencer Walsh, Townsend Walsh graduated from the Albany Academy in 1891 and from Harvard University in 1895. While at Harvard, he apparently took George Pierce Baker’s playwriting course, served on the editorial staff of the Harvard Advocate,and was a commencement speaker for his class.
In 1897 Walsh’s play, The Boys of Kilkenny,was produced at the Star Theatre in New York. The next year, 1898, Walsh began work as advance press representative for Mrs. Minnie Maddern Fiske in the production Love Finds A Way, followed by Tess of the D’Ubervilles and Becky Sharpe. This was the beginning of a long and fruitful career as an advance press agent in the theatre. After his work with Mrs. Fiske, Walsh worked for Fred Hamlin of the Grand Opera House with Hamlin’s touring productions of Babes in Toyland, and the Wizard of Oz between 1902 and 1906. (Source)
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February 15, 2014 at 12:19 pm #245166RumplesGirlKeymasterBecause of this, I believe that Gorham is someone on a spiritual path or has completed his spiritual path and is trying to set things in all worlds right. For me that can either mean the Wizard of Oz or Merlin. Preferable the former or maybe he’s a culmination of both. He’s showing up when it’s important to be showing up and providing guidance to help “goodness” along to a win. He’s Emma’s spiritual angel without her knowing it.
So he’s like August but one who knows how to stay selfless, brave and true.
I also believe that my original post about Patrick Walsh(e) was another clue pointing us to Gorham being the Wizard of Oz as I stated earlier that Pat Walsh(e) played the head Winged Monkey, in the 1939 film, The Wizard of Oz. They seem to be screaming out to us that he’s from OZ and he’s the Wizard. I think they are portraying Gorham as a younger version of The Wizard in the movie The Witches of Oz. Christopher Lloyd played that part and he kept showing up in New York City, helping Dorothy along, helping her remember who she was and helping her in making the right connections and decisions. Again, representation of a wizard who is good and kind and honest. He knows that many worlds need to be set be right and he’s helping/pushing the show along.
I just read over a synopsis of the Witches of Oz. *whoa* That does have some similarities.
The only problem I have with Gorham being the Wizard is that I think the Wizard of Oz is WWW’s father (Cora being her mother because at this point I’m going to be more surprised if WickedSisters isn’t true than if it is…) and Gorham is awfully young.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"February 15, 2014 at 12:29 pm #245169TheGoldenKeyParticipantHere is some more research about a man named Townsend Walsh, who was a theatrical press agent and business manager who promoted L. Frank Baum’s story “The Wzard of Oz” in the New York theater from 1902-1906:
Throughout his life, Townsend Walsh was involved with the American theatre in a variety of capacities–press agent, business manager, drama critic, playwright, collector, theatre and circus historian and sometime actor. Born in Albany, New York in 1872, to Augustus Henry and Laura Spencer Walsh, Townsend Walsh graduated from the Albany Academy in 1891 and from Harvard University in 1895. While at Harvard, he apparently took George Pierce Baker’s playwriting course, served on the editorial staff of the Harvard Advocate,and was a commencement speaker for his class. In 1897 Walsh’s play, The Boys of Kilkenny,was produced at the Star Theatre in New York. The next year, 1898, Walsh began work as advance press representative for Mrs. Minnie Maddern Fiske in the production Love Finds A Way, followed by Tess of the D’Ubervilles and Becky Sharpe. This was the beginning of a long and fruitful career as an advance press agent in the theatre. After his work with Mrs. Fiske, Walsh worked for Fred Hamlin of the Grand Opera House with Hamlin’s touring productions of Babes in Toyland, and the Wizard of Oz between 1902 and 1906. (Source)
Fantastic! Here’s another Walsh connection that leads us back to OZ. I like this Slurpeez! 🙂 We all know how K&H love their literary, theatrical, film and music nods. 🙂
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February 15, 2014 at 12:43 pm #245172TheGoldenKeyParticipantTheGoldenKey wrote: Because of this, I believe that Gorham is someone on a spiritual path or has completed his spiritual path and is trying to set things in all worlds right. For me that can either mean the Wizard of Oz or Merlin. Preferable the former or maybe he’s a culmination of both. He’s showing up when it’s important to be showing up and providing guidance to help “goodness” along to a win. He’s Emma’s spiritual angel without her knowing it.
So he’s like August but one who knows how to stay selfless, brave and true.
TheGoldenKey wrote: I also believe that my original post about Patrick Walsh(e) was another clue pointing us to Gorham being the Wizard of Oz as I stated earlier that Pat Walsh(e) played the head Winged Monkey, in the 1939 film, The Wizard of Oz. They seem to be screaming out to us that he’s from OZ and he’s the Wizard. I think they are portraying Gorham as a younger version of The Wizard in the movie The Witches of Oz. Christopher Lloyd played that part and he kept showing up in New York City, helping Dorothy along, helping her remember who she was and helping her in making the right connections and decisions. Again, representation of a wizard who is good and kind and honest. He knows that many worlds need to be set be right and he’s helping/pushing the show along.
I just read over a synopsis of the Witches of Oz. *whoa* That does have some similarities. The only problem I have with Gorham being the Wizard is that I think the Wizard of Oz is WWW’s father (Cora being her mother because at this point I’m going to be more surprised if WickedSisters isn’t true than if it is…) and Gorham is awfully young.
Not sure how to quote quotes anymore with the new changes so I’ll just post here.
YES! Like August! Great perspective RG!!!! Makes perfect sense and loving how you see that! Maybe it was Gorham/Wiz who gave August the info about Neal? Maybe he’s also connected with Blue?
I also wondered if the Wiz could be WW’s father. When K&H were asked about WW being Elphaba they said she’s not Elphaba and they aren’t doing Wicked. So that sort of killed that theory for me. I also am on board with Wicked Regals’ Wicked Sisters theory. Makes perfect sense. As for Gorham being awfully young, no one ever grows old in OZ. It’s just like NL in that aspect. So, I have no problem with that. Also, if on the off chance he is a combination of the Wiz and Merlin, Merline regressed in age. So again, a young Wizard would make sense.
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February 15, 2014 at 3:28 pm #245191sacrlcParticipantI found another reference to Jack Walsh, in the movie “Midnight Run”.
Beginning of the plot description according to Wikipedia:
Bounty hunter Jack Walsh (Robert De Niro) is enlisted by bail bondsman Eddie Moscone (Joe Pantoliano) to bring accountant Jonathan “The Duke” Mardukas (Charles Grodin) back to L.A.
Is it possible that Walsh (Christopher Gorham) and Emma are business friends?
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February 15, 2014 at 3:33 pm #245192SlurpeezParticipantIs it possible that Walsh (Christopher Gorham) and Emma are business friends?
I think it’s possible. One person (sorry can’t recall who), theorized that Emma knew Walsh after she got out of prison and possibly set her on her career path.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
February 15, 2014 at 4:09 pm #245195RumplesGirlKeymastersacrlc wrote: Is it possible that Walsh (Christopher Gorham) and Emma are business friends?
I think it’s possible. One person (sorry can’t recall who), theorized that Emma knew Walsh after she got out of prison and possibly set her on her career path.
I think @HappyEndings originally thought that Gorham would play the person who taught Emma how to track people.
Maybe he’s a giant mix of a lot of our theories?
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