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I am a nerd at heart.
Who is Jonathan?
He is listed in the credits. WE think he’s probably Zelena’s father.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Who is Jonathan?
He is listed in the credits. WE think he’s probably Zelena’s father.
Oh okay. So maybe not. I think that this will go in true to the original Millers daughter. Rumple realized that she lied to him, and her first born was threaten, so she sent Zelena away (not sure if Cora cheated, or if she was already pregnant from “Jonathan” when she became royal). She got pregnant again, but this time by Henry and that is Regina. A&E have stated that they have already written out the story for season ahead, so I trust they have a plan, the pictures look like they jumped the shark, but I don’t think so.
I am a nerd at heart.
Can you jump the shark twice? If not, then no concerns about it happening this ep!
Seriously, I am not a shipper of RB and those photos make me nauseous. I don’t know what is going on, but whatever it is, it is all kinds of WRONG.
Cause this story needs some mending & a better happy ending...
Ok.. I almost wish I hadn’t seen those pics. Just eww!
A thought about that Rumple and Zelena’s… thing. It looks like there will be two kisses. Perhaps the first one is Rumple’s attempt distract Zelena and take the dagger, but he fails. Zelena feels humiliated and is pissed off, so she forces him to kiss her as a punishment. And to make it more humiliating for him, she wraps her legs around him..
I JUST noticed that Zelena and Rumple are totally eating meat pies on their “date.”
FOREVER LOLING THAT THIS IS THE ONE PERSONAL THING SHE SEEMS TO BRING TO THE FIGURATIVE AND LITERAL TABLE FOR HIM.
Whateves, Z, his dad making him his favorite breakfast was a far more personal touch for Rumps.
"Death cannot stop true love...it can only delay it awhile."
Can you jump the shark twice? If not, then no concerns about it happening this ep!
They can still jump the Ursula. 😛
My faith that Rumple is the most powerful wizard in all the realms is slowly fading. First Peter, and now Zelena.
If Rumple was able to summon his dagger from the shadow, he should be able to summon it the moment Zelena puts it down. She certainly can’t hold that thing 24-7.
Clearly, at this dinner, Zelena is telling Rumple her plan to change the past and claim what she thinks is rightfully hers. He knows what’s at stake here.
If Rumple doesn’t gain the upper hand by the end of this “intimate” dinner date, then my faith in his powers of manipulation, and in the Dark One’s powers is fading fast.
I know she’s controlling him, but come on. Everything we know about him tells us he should be stronger and more cunning than she is.
That’s the thing though – if one of your main characters is supposed to be the most powerful/cunning wizard in all the lands, how can anyone they go against ever be a threat? The villains need to be able to outsmart, outwit, outmatch them (atleast initially) or else the tension evaporates. If Rumple could just handwave and scheme all our antagonists away, what would we even need the Charmings for? That’s the biggest issue I had with Regina telling Rumple in Neverland that they were the two most powerful magic users in history or something to that extent – it’s clearly her inflated sense of ego and self-worth, but it just doesn’t seem like a thing that ever needed to be said. Leave it ambiguous IMO. His power as the Dark One is great, but it’s got to come with some restrictions – like someone said, Zoso needed to enlist Rumple in stealing the dagger in the first place. Maybe the dagger itself isn’t summonable? It’s possibly worth noting that when he hid it with his shadow, he didn’t summon it. He called back his shadow, which brought the dagger with it. I know Cora kind of Force Pulls it in 2×15 when Snow gives it up, but that was a deliberate exchange – maybe ownership of the dagger extends past holding it and is more about possessing it? Sure, maybe she can only give him direct commands when she’s holding it, but if holding it was the only way to possess it, then anyone with enough magic could just steal it from whoever, whenever. Rumple certainly didn’t hold it for 300 years.
Keeper of Zelena's witch hat and the Black Fairy's wand.
Look at Emma dressed all girly and whatnot…thank goodness, I was NOT loving last ep’s Lumberjack Look.
Yes I noted that as well- I really like it
And she’s matching her outfit’s to Killy’s eyes.
Lol- good catch, I didnt notice that 😉
Maybe Rumple cursed his own lips and he is purposely kissing Zelena so that her magic will taken away just like she threatened with with Hook. She would still have his dagger but at least HER powers would be gone. She does look really unhappy in one of the pictures.
Great idea! I like it 🙂
Why is Rumple being molested by his daughter?????
*shudders* Gross- just gross! However I dont think she is his daughter, as she had to use his blood to open his safe- if she was his daughter, she wouldnt have needed his blood- unless she doesnt know who her father is…. Ugh! I cant even think that… its just wrong on every level!
Rumple isn’t the father. The PR and these pics confirm that. You can’t still think Rumple is the father after these pics. ONCE isn’t going to cross THAT line.
Thank goodness!
Definitely looks like she is getting Regina’s heart this episode though my guess is that it is towards the end. So she can technically control Regina now as well?
Yep- which is all kinds of bad- she’ll have herself, Rumple & Regina on her side- beyond me why she thinks Emma can stop all 3 of them combined- ‘Savior’ must be an empty title after all! 😉
This episode confuses me lol.
took the words right out of my mouth there!
You know you’ve been watching a Fairy Tale show too long when you find yourself saying “I’m tired of memory potions, can’t it be something else?”
LOL
Wait. I just went back and watched all the scenes from The Miller’s Daughter that have Princess Ava in them. It is pretty clear that she was there to hopefully marry Prince Henry and join their two kingdoms together. If that is the case the scenes with Cora, Leo, and Ava can’t be before the Miller’s daughter because Ava wasn’t married during the Miller’s a Daughter. So that means that Cora really is royalty at that point and is married to Prince Henry.
That was my impression from the stills & promo- but now I dont know what to think- so many theories!
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