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October 28, 2014 at 12:19 am #287826nealfanforeverParticipant
Yeah, Belle’s got amnesia again. But then so does Emma. Like Rumple said to Elsa, a common complaint… The whole premise of the show from day one was that lots of chars had amnesia of some sort, so it’s not surprising, but it is getting a little repetitive.
Yeah. It does seem to be getting old. First season everyone but Emma, Henry, Regina, Rumple and Jefferson were cursed with false memories. Second season, Belle had amnesia and was cursed as Lacey. Season three, Emma and Henry were “blessed” with false memories. Fourth season, Elsa, Emma and Belle all have memory loss. It’s an often used plot device.
I think this is because all the memory losses are clues….pointing to the BIGGEST story that hasn’t been told yet, the story of Regina’s lost memories and her lost family. I think the Big reveal that is coming is that Regina has been operating with lost memories from the very beginning of the pilot episode of Season 1. I think she and Robin Hood were in love before she ever met Daniel. I think they had a child together and that child was Mary Margaret. It may go even farther than that….it may be that Cora is not even Regina’s biological mother…but rather that Regina was a portable little baby that somehow ended up with Cora.
Cora told dead Eva…..”I will destroy your legacy!” Wouldn’t it be a twist if Regina’s whole life was stolen….and that when she cast the curse…brought herself to Storybrooke…it actually started the clock on her getting her story back…her husband….her child…her family.
We have known from the beginning that Emma was the Savior and she was going to break the curse and then the Final Battle would begin. I believe that final battle is going to involve Regina and Regina’s
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October 28, 2014 at 12:28 am #287829RumplesGirlKeymasterI think she and Robin Hood were in love before she ever met Daniel. I think they had a child together and that child was Mary Margaret. It may go even farther than that….it may be that Cora is not even Regina’s biological mother…but rather that Regina was a portable little baby that somehow ended up with Cora.
Regina is only about 10 years older than Snow White. She was 18 when she saved Snow in The Stable Boy. In order for Regina to be Snow’s mother, she’d have to birthed Snow at at the age of 8.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 28, 2014 at 12:35 am #287833CindersParticipantIsn’t Aurora also in this episode?
October 28, 2014 at 3:16 am #287861MyrilParticipantONCE UPON A TIME – “Family Business” – The race is on to track down the elusive Snow Queen, who was once a foster mother to a young Emma – whose memories of this event have been erased – in order to discover what her ultimate end game is for Elsa and the residents of Storybrooke, and unaware that she does not possess the real blade that controls The Dark One, Belle attempts to use it to get her reluctant husband to show her where the Snow Queen is hiding. Meanwhile, back in the past, Belle travels to Arendelle and, with Anna’s help, seeks out Grand Pabbie to help her regain her lost memories in order to discover the fate of her mother, on “Once Upon a Time,” SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 2 (8:00-9:00 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network.
Source:Is that even the official press release? I mean, this text is one mess of a mess – if that is the official one, the original wording by ABC, then whoever let that get out should be fired, that is no professional PR work. At best someone on the spoiler site did some very bad copy and past job. (I looked on the ABC medianet site myself, interesting thing is, the last press release on there for an episode is for 4×04, but not all press material send out by companies is always accessible for all public, so still not sure, considering that the info for the recent episode was legit enough, though still wonder about where queen and king of Arendelle were, it wasn’t on there mediasite either).
So Belle goes to regain her memory about something that happened to her mother. Let us guess, a certain blonde with ice cold appearance might have been involved in that? Makes me wonder, if Snow Queen does that herself on purpose, or if it is something that kinda happens to people afterwards, a kind of convenient curse which might be not so convenient after all.
Well, since I’ve never lived with magical people, I had no idea that memory loss was such a common occurrence.
I still think that a living witch, like Zelena, cast a spell over the Snow Queen that nobody who spoke to her would remember her, thus, she would never find love, or family. This is why nobody remembers, or knows her.
But, when that witch died, the spell was broken. And now, everyone remembers only recent convos with her, but not convos from the past.
Also why she doesn’t appear in the census, yet there is that picture that indicates she’s been in Storybrooke from the beginning.So far, the only person who seems to know her from the past is…guess who…Gold.
Crack theory
Not a crack theory at all. It sounds quite plausible at this point. The only problem is, what dealings should Zelena have had with the Snow Queen back in the days? But, Zelena is a crazy witch, so everything is possible with her.
Though I think about the possibility, that it was something that was done to protect people, maybe even the Snow Queen, but backfired. Some stupid thing Grand Pabbie did.
Still musing about what the Snow Queen said about mirrors and wondering, why she is gathering mirror pieces. Which reminded me of an image from a Star Trek Next Generation episode (yeah, the miraculous ways minds can work), one of its best episodes actually, called Frame of Mind. Just in short: Will Riker kinda believes for a while to be a patient in a psychiatric ward, struggling with delusions, and with identity. There is a scene where fake, imagined worlds around him shatter like a mirror. Not exactly a new image, shattered mirror, but found it used in that TGN episode in one of the best visual ways. Shattered mirrors are a useful image for shattered identities, shattered minds, reflecting our persona (ah, did Bergman use in his movie Persona mirrors? have to take a look). So, shattered mirror -> shattered mind / identity -> part of our identity is to be recognized by other people as ourselves -> so Snow Queens identity sort of shattered and lost but less because she isn’t recognizing herself but because other aren’t recognizing her, not remembering her? To actually get a loving family you need to be remembered, recognized, visible (!). Just fractured ideas at this point though.
And, by the way, when Regina enacted the Dark Curse the first time, when it took all over, Regina standing in Emma’s nursery, Snow White on the floor, her dying husband David in her arms, it looks a bit like the world around the shattering as well. Just saying.
Elsa said, her mother never mentioned a sister – maybe because she didn’t remember she had one?
Pffft, miss the good old times of coming up with these kind of theories. The last time I really had this thrill was with Lake Nostos, the well in Storybrooke, when it turned out, indeed some of the theories coming from collective knowledge of and digging into myth, tales were dead on.
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October 28, 2014 at 9:35 am #287880RumplesGirlKeymasterI’m not sure if there is another press release with more detail, I was shocked by lack of cast information. We’ll keep an eye on it.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 28, 2014 at 1:04 pm #287898RumplesGirlKeymasterFull release
“Family Business” – The race is on to track down the elusive Snow Queen, who was once a foster mother to a young Emma – whose memories of this event have been erased – in order to discover what her ultimate end game is for Elsa and the residents of Storybrooke, and unaware that she does not possess the real blade that controls The Dark One, Belle attempts to use it to get her reluctant husband to show her where the Snow Queen is hiding. Meanwhile, back in the past, Belle travels to Arendelle and, with Anna’s help, seeks out Grand Pabbie to help her regain her lost memories in order to discover the fate of her mother, on “Once Upon a Time,” SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 2 (8:00-9:00 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network.
“Once Upon a Time” stars Ginnifer Goodwin as Snow White/Mary Margaret, Jennifer Morrison as Emma Swan, Lana Parrilla as the Evil Queen/Regina, Josh Dallas as Prince Charming/David Nolan, Emilie de Ravin as Belle, Colin O’Donoghue as Hook, Jared S. Gilmore as Henry, Michael Socha as Will Scarlet and Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold.
Guest starring are Sean Maguire as Robin Hood, Georgina Haig as Elsa, Elizabeth Lail as Anna, Elizabeth Mitchell as Snow Queen, Scott Michael Foster as Kristoff, John Rhys-Davies as Grand Pabbie, Christie Laing as Marian, Frances O’Connor as Colette, Eric Keenleyside as Maurice, Jason Burkart as Little John, Darcey Johnson as Oaken and Garfield Wilson as guard.
“Family Business” was written by Kalinda Vazquez & Andrew Chambliss and directed by Mario Van Peebles.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 28, 2014 at 1:06 pm #287899RumplesGirlKeymasterFull release
“Family Business” – The race is on to track down the elusive Snow Queen, who was once a foster mother to a young Emma – whose memories of this event have been erased – in order to discover what her ultimate end game is for Elsa and the residents of Storybrooke, and unaware that she does not possess the real blade that controls The Dark One, Belle attempts to use it to get her reluctant husband to show her where the Snow Queen is hiding. Meanwhile, back in the past, Belle travels to Arendelle and, with Anna’s help, seeks out Grand Pabbie to help her regain her lost memories in order to discover the fate of her mother, on “Once Upon a Time,” SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 2 (8:00-9:00 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network.
“Once Upon a Time” stars Ginnifer Goodwin as Snow White/Mary Margaret, Jennifer Morrison as Emma Swan, Lana Parrilla as the Evil Queen/Regina, Josh Dallas as Prince Charming/David Nolan, Emilie de Ravin as Belle, Colin O’Donoghue as Hook, Jared S. Gilmore as Henry, Michael Socha as Will Scarlet and Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold.
Guest starring are Sean Maguire as Robin Hood, Georgina Haig as Elsa, Elizabeth Lail as Anna, Elizabeth Mitchell as Snow Queen, Scott Michael Foster as Kristoff, John Rhys-Davies as Grand Pabbie, Christie Laing as Marian, Frances O’Connor as Colette, Eric Keenleyside as Maurice, Jason Burkart as Little John, Darcey Johnson as Oaken and Garfield Wilson as guard.
“Family Business” was written by Kalinda Vazquez & Andrew Chambliss and directed by Mario Van Peebles.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 28, 2014 at 1:36 pm #287903SlurpeezParticipantFrances O’Connor as Colette
So Belle’s mother is called Colette. I looked up the meaning, in case that sheds any clues. Colette is the French diminutive of Nicole, or Nicolette. The name means “people of victory” or the “people’s victory.”
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October 28, 2014 at 2:40 pm #287909kpercymanParticipantI am going with Rumple having cursed the Snow Queen. Why else would they work together? Remember all magic comes with a price. Maybe she went to Rumple to erase the memory of accidentally killing her sister. Rumple with all his stuff stated: “All magic comes with a price”
The price is that anyone that has ever loved the Snow Queen will never remember her.
October 28, 2014 at 3:46 pm #287919MyrilParticipantThe price is that anyone that has ever loved the Snow Queen will never remember her.
That would mean Colette and the the Snow Queen were in love? But why doesn’t Belle remember a thing?
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