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December 8, 2014 at 8:46 am #292426
Phee
ParticipantAnyone else think that Cruella kidnapped Belle….?
Yup. (It might actually be fun to see Belle vs Cruella, considering Emilie is a hardcore animal lover so maybe that’s where they got the idea. But I’ve learned to not get my hopes up where Belle’s involvement is concerned, so I’m reserving judgement.)
[adrotate group="5"]December 8, 2014 at 8:59 am #292429swanning-off
ParticipantI dunno what the plot is, all I know is CRUELLA LOOKS AMAZING.
December 8, 2014 at 10:31 am #292441MatthewPaul
ModeratorMy big concern with this promo is if they’re gonna dumb down Ursula from a goddess to just a witch. It seems like she’s sharing a scene with at least Cruella? But Merrin tweeted the other day: “Holy smokes. We just saw the first cut of the #EvilTrio entrance to OUAT.” and if what they saw was this promo then it suggests they’re probably all three sharing a scene, (thought I know Ursula, Cruella and Rumple have been sharing scenes too, so that might be what she was talking about, but do supporting actors get to see things like selected scenes from an ep that aren’t a promo?). I’ve got no problems if they want to bump Cruella up to witch status, because it would make her fit better IMO. But if they demote Ursula’s status to witch, I’ll be annoyed.
To be fair, being a Sea Witch is what Ursula is supposed to be traditionally. What I could see them doing is making it so people only thought she was a God due to her powers of the sea. After all, she was supposed to be a “myth”, and myths aren’t known to be 100% factual.
December 8, 2014 at 10:36 am #292444Phee
ParticipantTo be fair, being a Sea Witch is what Ursula is supposed to be traditionally. What I could see them doing is making it so people only thought she was a God due to her powers of the sea. After all, she was supposed to be a “myth”, and myths aren’t known to be 100% factual.
I get that she was typically a sea witch. But in the show, they went to the extent of having a kingdom making a golden statue to revere her because she was was a GODDESS. Even the Little freaking Mermaid thought Ursula was a GODDESS. So I won’t be cool with it if they downgrade her to “witch”.
December 8, 2014 at 10:37 am #292445WickedRegal
ParticipantMy big concern with this promo is if they’re gonna dumb down Ursula from a goddess to just a witch. It seems like she’s sharing a scene with at least Cruella? But Merrin tweeted the other day: “Holy smokes. We just saw the first cut of the #EvilTrio entrance to OUAT.” and if what they saw was this promo then it suggests they’re probably all three sharing a scene, (thought I know Ursula, Cruella and Rumple have been sharing scenes too, so that might be what she was talking about, but do supporting actors get to see things like selected scenes from an ep that aren’t a promo?). I’ve got no problems if they want to bump Cruella up to witch status, because it would make her fit better IMO. But if they demote Ursula’s status to witch, I’ll be annoyed.
To be fair, being a Sea Witch is what Ursula is supposed to be traditionally. What I could see them doing is making it so people only thought she was a God due to her powers of the sea. After all, she was supposed to be a “myth”, and myths aren’t known to be 100% factual.
The excitement is too much….Season 4B is brilliant so far.
All we’ve got to do is add Hook and Rumple to the picture below!!!!!
4B Is Villain Centric….(Cue The Song “It’s Our House Now”)
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
December 8, 2014 at 3:06 pm #292493PriceofMagic
ParticipantCrack theory: Cruella can shape-shift and is actually the dalmation seen in the promo.
(Ignore the writing on the image)
As weird as it sounds, that dalmation looks suspicious. It’s the eyes and the spots around the eyes. It looks like it’s up to something, that it’s plotting something nefarious. That is not the look of an innocent puppy.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixDecember 8, 2014 at 3:50 pm #292502TheWatcher
ParticipantTo be fair, being a Sea Witch is what Ursula is supposed to be traditionally. What I could see them doing is making it so people only thought she was a God due to her powers of the sea. After all, she was supposed to be a “myth”, and myths aren’t known to be 100% factual.
I get that she was typically a sea witch. But in the show, they went to the extent of having a kingdom making a golden statue to revere her because she was was a GODDESS. Even the Little freaking Mermaid thought Ursula was a GODDESS. So I won’t be cool with it if they downgrade her to “witch”.
I agree with Phee. Plus they have showed Ursula’s power to be so great that she granted an entire species the ability to transform into humans and she has lived for over a thousand years. Ursula is OLDER than Rumpel. If they try and tell us she actually isn’t a goddess now, I’ll be p’d off.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICDecember 8, 2014 at 5:24 pm #292518Lauren
ParticipantMy big concern with this promo is if they’re gonna dumb down Ursula from a goddess to just a witch. It seems like she’s sharing a scene with at least Cruella? But Merrin tweeted the other day: “Holy smokes. We just saw the first cut of the #EvilTrio entrance to OUAT.” and if what they saw was this promo then it suggests they’re probably all three sharing a scene, (thought I know Ursula, Cruella and Rumple have been sharing scenes too, so that might be what she was talking about, but do supporting actors get to see things like selected scenes from an ep that aren’t a promo?). I’ve got no problems if they want to bump Cruella up to witch status, because it would make her fit better IMO. But if they demote Ursula’s status to witch, I’ll be annoyed.
To be fair, being a Sea Witch is what Ursula is supposed to be traditionally. What I could see them doing is making it so people only thought she was a God due to her powers of the sea. After all, she was supposed to be a “myth”, and myths aren’t known to be 100% factual.
The excitement is too much….Season 4B is brilliant so far. All we’ve got to do is add Hook and Rumple to the picture below!!!!!
4B Is Villain Centric….(Cue The Song “It’s Our House Now”)
i did a live image photoshop of this they should make it an extra bts scene like on the last dvd when show is over ha
didn’t add hook but sure he’d be like ursula with a card up his sleeve sneaky pirate
December 9, 2014 at 10:10 am #292588Slurpeez
ParticipantHow–door—how?!?!
Oh there’s that magical door to Arendelle again. Hmmm. My own guess is that the apprentice gets freed from that hat (as do the fairies, and perhaps the “queens of darkness”). The apprentice then presents the portal to Elsa, Anna, and Kristoff, allowing them to return home.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
December 9, 2014 at 10:12 am #292590RumplesGirl
KeymasterHow–door—how?!?!
Oh there’s that magical door to Arendelle again. Hmmm. My own guess is that the apprentice gets freed from that hat (as do the fairies, and perhaps the “queens of darkness”). The apprentice then presents the portal to Elsa, Anna, and Kristoff, allowing them to return home.
Huzzah for an actual god like figure literally coming forth from ex machina and doing something convenient!
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