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April 27, 2015 at 8:02 pm #302939RumplesGirlKeymaster
I am also legit excited for Barbara Hershey! Cora may be really super villainous but Hershey just kills it. Her WL episode was one of the best of the series
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 27, 2015 at 9:07 pm #302944SweetsParticipantAnd CORA!!! Best villain ever. Creator of villains and villain of villains.
I nominate this as her official tagline.
April 27, 2015 at 9:16 pm #302947TheWatcherParticipantThe Severe Nurse… Isn’t that the lady who works down in regina’s little hospital of the insane?
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICApril 27, 2015 at 9:19 pm #302948KebParticipantYep, that’s her, first seen in Skin Deep.
Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing
April 27, 2015 at 9:37 pm #302949SlurpeezParticipantJohn Innes as Older Man
The Sorcerer perhaps?
Jeremy Patrick Schuetze as Young Man
Young Apprentice or Sorcerer?
The actors playing the young and old men have similar eyes. Maybe they’re playing father and son, or perhaps even the same character at different life stages.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
April 27, 2015 at 10:05 pm #302957TheGoldenKeyParticipantThe Severe Nurse… Isn’t that the lady who works down in regina’s little hospital of the insane?
The severe nurse is a nod to Nurse Ratched from One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest and the custodian in the hospital basement, who we’ve seen pushing the mop, is another nod to the movie’s character Chief Bromden. I just want to see him offer someone a stick of Juicy Fruit gum before the series ends. Just once, that’s all I’m asking. 🙂
Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.
April 27, 2015 at 10:16 pm #302961WickedRegalParticipantI can’t wait for this episode!!!
BARBRA HERSHEY!!! MAMA CORA’S BACK FOR A FLASHBACK!!!!!!!
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
April 27, 2015 at 10:40 pm #302966onceaholicParticipantSPOILER
It won’t be the same character, as Regina crushes the young man’s heart in the trailer.
Keeper of Regina's bravery
April 27, 2015 at 10:48 pm #302969PheeParticipantDoes it feel retconny to anyone else that Cora and Regina will be interacting at this point in the timeline? That’s how it’s feeling to me and it bugs.
Young Apprentice or Sorcerer?
Before the press release came out I commented in the promo thread that the guest star list would indicate whether Regina’s shown crushing Robin’s heart, or if it was some other, younger guy, because from what little we saw of his face, looked like it might be someone younger. I’d say this is the guy.
April 27, 2015 at 11:43 pm #302978MatthewPaulModeratorDoes it feel retconny to anyone else that Cora and Regina will be interacting at this point in the timeline? That’s how it’s feeling to me and it bugs.
Yes and no. We already knew that Cora somehow kidnapped Henry Sr. and took him to Wonderland, so it would make sense if she traveled back and forth in that regard. That is if they actually tell that story in this episode. Regina was also fully aware that her mother had become the Queen of Hearts. She had to learn that knowledge somehow. Yeah, Regina knew that she sent her mother to some land, but Rumple was cryptic with her in regards to which land it was. Nor would that knowledge alone inform Regina that she had become the Queen of Hearts.
It’s one of those cases where as an audience we assume one thing, but the writers find a way to tell us otherwise. For example, it turned out that Robin and Will actually met before the events of “Forget Me Not”, which does add up in hindsight because Robin already knew Will by name in that opening scene. And in the most recent episode, it turned out that Emma and Lily did meet again, while previously we assumed they never met again following their initial falling out. So I don’t know if these are really retcons, but rather a clash of different interpretations between the fans and the writers in regards to what happened during gaps in the story.
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