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420: Sneak Peeks (1 and 2)

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Season Four › 4×20 “Mother” › 4×20 “Mother” spoilers › 420: Sneak Peeks (1 and 2)

  • This topic has 63 replies, 13 voices, and was last updated 10 years ago by RumplesGirl.
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  • April 30, 2015 at 12:26 pm #303305
    WickedRegal
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    WickedRegal wrote:

    You gotta love Regina and her way of greeting new people into town!!! Though…what would she need with Emma’s portion of darkness???

    Because Regina is really Rumple in a magical disguise. He needs Emma’s darkness to change fate so that Isaac can write the villains their happy endings.

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    That’s a very strong and plausible theory….I’ll jump on that bandwagon!

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    "If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

    April 30, 2015 at 12:27 pm #303306
    Sweets
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    Man,

    Rumple needs some lessons from Cora and Zelena on how to impersonate people.

    April 30, 2015 at 12:27 pm #303307
    PanTheMan
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    What I’m curious about is whether or not there have been Saviors before Emma. If that’s where the ink for the Author comes from, there would’ve had to have been previous saviors, right?

     

    Also, that did feel a little bit more like Rumple than Regina, but it was Regina’s color of *POOF* smoke.

    April 30, 2015 at 12:27 pm #303308
    obisgirl
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    So maybe Regina needed a drop of Lily’s blood because it contained some of Emma’s darkness. But why would Regina need savior darkness unless she were trying to change fate to get the Author to rewrite the villains their happy endings? Wait…does anyone else suspect that Regina may really be Rumple in disguise? Quote

    Yeah. I think you’re right on that.  Because there’s no way real Regina would just let Emma slip into darkness. It’s Rumple, again. First he impersonates Hook and now Regina.

    Die in a fire, Rumple. Die in a big blaze of fire. I am so done with you.

    April 30, 2015 at 12:30 pm #303309
    Sweets
    Participant

    Yeah. I think you’re right on that.  Because there’s no way real Regina would just let Emma slip into darkness. It’s Rumple, again. First he impersonates Hook and now Regina.

    Rumple is the one that knows the Author needed a quill and ink.

    April 30, 2015 at 12:31 pm #303310
    RumplesGirl
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    I’m telling you guys. Lily’s blood  = ink for book.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    April 30, 2015 at 12:35 pm #303311
    Sweets
    Participant

    I’m telling you guys. Lily’s blood  = ink for book.

    Which….creepy. Blood magic!

    So…does this mean Rumple doesn’t even need the Savior anymore?

    April 30, 2015 at 12:35 pm #303312
    Slurpeez
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    What I’m curious about is whether or not there have been Saviors before Emma.

    Maybe. Lily just compared herself to Moses in a basket. Moses was a savior of his people in the Bible. That makes it sound like Lily is also a prime candidate for being a savior. I’m thinking part of Lily’s destiny isn’t necessarily doomed to anti-savior, like she believes, but that Lily and Emma are going to switch places. Emma is going to become the anti-savior Black Swan when the heroes and villains swap places in the finale.

    If that’s where the ink for the Author comes from, there would’ve had to have been previous saviors, right?

    Hmmm, if what you’re saying is true, that means the blood of the dark savior is the magic ink required for the Author to rewrite a story? Eeek. And yeah, that would imply there have been many different saviors through history, since there have been many different authors.

    I’m telling you guys. Lily’s blood = ink for book.

    *sigh* Looks like you could be right. I’d been hoping the ink required would just be squid ink, rather than dark savior blood.

    So…does this mean Rumple doesn’t even need the Savior anymore?

    Guess not? So Emma doesn’t actually have to go fully dark? Rumple just needed a drop of her darkness, which had been cast in Lily? That means Rumple was counting on Emma finding Lily and bringing her back to SB, rather than killing her, as Regina had assumed.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    April 30, 2015 at 12:43 pm #303313
    Sweets
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    Guess not? So Emma doesn’t actually have to go fully dark? Rumple just needed a drop of her darkness, which had been cast in Lily? That means Rumple was counting on Emma finding Lily and bringing her back to SB, rather than killing her, as Regina had assumed.

    I don’t think Rumple planned on Lily being as crazy as she is. The conversation was almost like an interview. The things “Regina” was asking her were things she saw with her own eyes in the previous episode.

    April 30, 2015 at 12:48 pm #303314
    RumplesGirl
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    What I’m curious about is whether or not there have been Saviors before Emma. If that’s where the ink for the Author comes from, there would’ve had to have been previous saviors, right?

    Yes good question. But I’d say we could look at history/mythology for an answer to that. There have always been savior figures. They spring up in every mythology known to man. It’s our rather monotheistic world view that makes us think there can only be ONE.

    But..you’ve seen the Matrix, yeah? Neo in the “One” but he’s also one of many. He’s part of an equation that played itself out over and over. He’s not the first, but he is the last. That’s Emma. She might not be the first Savior, because Savior’s rise up in times of cosmological crises, but she is the Last.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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