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Am I the only one who thinks this is actually Regina, and not Rumple? I don’t think she wants to turn Emma dark, but instead use Lily’s blood because of her having Emma’s darkness inside of her. I think the whole Zelena pregnancy thing is making Regina act desperate. Plus, we saw Regina working with Isaac in the promo.
[adrotate group="5"]Well maybe it’s Emma’s blood. Lily’s dark blood and Emma’s light blood. That’s rather poetic in and of itself. (if highly disturbing at the same time)
Poetic, yes. But logically complicated — if Lily is now the receptacle of Emma’s original darkness, and Emma’s blood is used to react with it, then it suggests that goodness can only exist after darkness has been subtracted out, and therefore cannot exist on its own.
A hair from Henry’s head? After all, he’s the product of both dark and light magic. Or maybe a hair from baby Neal’s head, since he’s an innocent and a product of the truest of true love.
Hmm. That’s rather grim, but not impossible. Henry is also the Truest Believer, so maybe that counts for something. (Speaking of which, if Henry is the next Author, I wonder if Authors are maybe chosen based on this particular trait).
If it’s Baby Neal, lets hope he’s one of those babies that has hair 😉 And that’s just grim, but then again, considering Rumple’s current Evil (TM) (language) status, I wouldn’t be surprised if the writers went there, or somewhere like it.
What I’m curious about is whether or not there have been Saviors before Emma. If that’s where the ink for the Author comes from, there would’ve had to have been previous saviors, right?
Yes good question. But I’d say we could look at history/mythology for an answer to that. There have always been savior figures. They spring up in every mythology known to man. It’s our rather monotheistic world view that makes us think there can only be ONE.
But..you’ve seen the Matrix, yeah? Neo in the “One” but he’s also one of many. He’s part of an equation that played itself out over and over. He’s not the first, but he is the last. That’s Emma. She might not be the first Savior, because Savior’s rise up in times of cosmological crises, but she is the Last.
*has never seen the Matrix* so just so ican understand this analogy…would it also be a good comparison to say that Emma is like a Slayer. There have been many before her and there will be more after her, she’s isn’t the first, just another one. Or nah?
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICMaybe it’s less about Rumple and his happy ending and more about making sure Rumple *keeps* his HEA. If the Savior remains pure, then she can change what Rumple and the Author rewrite. But if you corrupt the Savior, make her a darker version of herself, then she can’t undo the changes.
“The story ends with the savior turning dark,” sounds to me like a foreshadowing of what’s in store for Emma. I theorized a while back that Rumple wants to drive his darkness into Emma’s heart, the way the Apprentice drove Emma’s potential for darkness into Lily. I think Rumple’s idea of a happy ending is him keeping his magic without having to pay the price for it. Instead, Emma pays the price.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Am I the only one who thinks this is actually Regina, and not Rumple? I don’t think she wants to turn Emma dark, but instead use Lily’s blood because of her having Emma’s darkness inside of her. I think the whole Zelena pregnancy thing is making Regina act desperate. Plus, we saw Regina working with Isaac in the promo.
I think it could go either way. It could really be Regina, or it could be Rumple pretending to be Regina; which wouldn’t be a huge stress since we saw him pretend to be Hook earlier this arc.
Plus, Dark Pharmacy in the background? You mine as well as call that, the Dark One’s Pharmacy.
Here’s the part, I still don’t get though. The Author doesn’t seem very resistant to helping Rumple re-write his happy ending. So, why does he need Emma to still need to be corrupted?
Maybe it’s less about Rumple and his happy ending and more about making sure Rumple *keeps* his HEA. If the Savior remains pure, then she can change what Rumple and the Author rewrite. But if you corrupt the Savior, make her a darker version of herself, then she can’t undo the changes.
Okay. I’ll buy that.
Poetic, yes. But logically complicated — if Lily is now the receptacle of Emma’s original darkness, and Emma’s blood is used to react with it, then it suggests that goodness can only exist after darkness has been subtracted out, and therefore cannot exist on its own.
That’s true…thought, it’s hard for me to imagine that A and E would think that one through.
has never seen the Matrix* so just so ican understand this analogy…would it also be a good comparison to say that Emma is like a Slayer. There have been many before her and there will be more after her, she’s isn’t the first, just another one. Or nah?
Yes, sort of. Though the emphasis would be put on the fact that there are no more after Emma. She breaks the paradigm. She “fixes” the universe so that goodness prevails. Not to say that there won’t be any thing bad in the world anymore, but rather as the fully realized cosmological Savior she has done what no Savior before her could do–put down the darkness.
Buffy’s ending is a bit unique (but that’s because Joss Whedon is a god among men and we are not worthy of him). She’s still the Slayer but she is joined by other Slayers; she awakens the hero in others. Whereas, in the end, only Neo could stop Agent Smith and bring about the lasting change. Trinity was there, and Morpehus put him on the path, but it could only be Neo who brought balance.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Am I the only one who thinks this is actually Regina, and not Rumple? I don’t think she wants to turn Emma dark, but instead use Lily’s blood because of her having Emma’s darkness inside of her. I think the whole Zelena pregnancy thing is making Regina act desperate. Plus, we saw Regina working with Isaac in the promo.
While Regina does want the Author to rewrite her story, does she really want to stack the odds against the heroes now so that the villains win? Regina does seem desperate to get Robin Hood back, but does she really want to jeopardize the Charmings and Henry to get her happy ending now? Also, I’d say Robin Hood is still in the hero camp, so it seems like he’d be on the losing side if the savior goes dark. I would’ve hoped Regina had made more progress than to jeopardize her future with Henry. Also, the way Regina says to Lily that she really is fully of darkness just really sounds similar to what Rumple said to Regina in S2 about resembling Cora. Rumple loves to bask in others’ darkness.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I think it’s Rumple. Regina has Robin Hood back now. The only complication is Zelena’s maybe pregnancy, which I’m sure will be resolved somehow in the coming episodes.
The Dark Star pharmacy is a lot bigger than I thought it was. I thought it was only a little corner shop type thing.
I have to agree that I think this is really Rumple pretending to be Regina than actual Regina. If it was the real Regina, it doesn’t make sense for her to aggravate Lily like she is doing.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixRump is the dark one… Lily has a star tattoo….If Rump and Lily were in a relationship…they’d be called #DarkStar….Also that letter R seems so suspicious just sitting there in the corner…. R….. Mr. Gold’s true name is Rumpelstiltskin which starts with an R…. Also, “regina” disappears in a cloud of smoke….smoke is usually a sign of fire…forest catch on fire….forest are usually dark….Rumpel is the Dark One…therefore its a sign that Regina=Rumpel…and that also Rumpel is actually a forest.
I have cracked the code.
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