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May 3, 2015 at 3:56 pm #303551MatthewPaulModerator
Based on what Isaac said in Cruella’s centric, these realms are literally realms of STORY. To me that suggests that these realms could have literally been written into existence. So based on this theory, whoever wrote the Enchanted Forest as a realm did so using knowledge of Medieval culture, including religious influences. This would also explain A Land Without Color, Frankenstein’s realm. Victor and his family were shown celebrating Christmas, and Victor even uses the expression “cross to bear.” Also, Victor’s commission letter refers to Austria (obviously a fictional version of it). We are supposed to be getting more in depth on the job of the Author in the finale, so maybe we’ll get some clarifications then.
[adrotate group="5"]May 3, 2015 at 4:09 pm #303552RumplesGirlKeymasterBased on what Isaac said in Cruella’s centric, these realms are literally realms of STORY. To me that suggests that these realms could have literally been written into existence. So based on this theory, whoever wrote the Enchanted Forest as a realm did so using knowledge of Medieval culture, including religious influences. This would also explain A Land Without Color, Frankenstein’s realm. Victor and his family were shown celebrating Christmas, and Victor even uses the expression “cross to bear.” Also, Victor’s commission letter refers to Austria (obviously a fictional version of it). We are supposed to be getting more in depth on the job of the Author in the finale, so maybe we’ll get some clarifications then.
I like that theory a lot (and yes I remember the Frankie stuff, and I remember bringing up my qualms then as well…). But like I said, I like your idea. I just hope that we get some answers on that, including how a world that has been written into existence can be populated by real, breathing, birthing and dying people. I mean, there is something to be said about how an author’s characters can seem so real that they become REAL but if that’s what A and E are saying then…say it. It’s a neat idea.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 3, 2015 at 7:12 pm #303576KebParticipantHm. I’m not so bothered by the concept of Christianity in FTL, because most of the stories that are involved were, in RL, written/orally composed (at least in the forms we’ve received) in a Christian context with pagan influences. You go through the source tales as they were written, and you find average women with magical knowledge casting little spells on the way to a church…it’s disconcerting in a way to us, because modern American (to some extent, all of western) culture has been inundated with this concept that magic, religion, and science are all in different corners and burn each other when they meet. But historically, and in other cultures, they blended a lot more–alchemy and chemistry were once one and the same (as with astrology and astronomy), supported by church and government alike. Wise women practiced magical medicine all week and attended church on Sunday.
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May 3, 2015 at 7:19 pm #303577RumplesGirlKeymasterHm. I’m not so bothered by the concept of Christianity in FTL, because most of the stories that are involved were, in RL, written/orally composed (at least in the forms we’ve received) in a Christian context with pagan influences. You go through the source tales as they were written, and you find average women with magical knowledge casting little spells on the way to a church…it’s disconcerting in a way to us, because modern American (to some extent, all of western) culture has been inundated with this concept that magic, religion, and science are all in different corners and burn each other when they meet. But historically, and in other cultures, they blended a lot more–alchemy and chemistry were once one and the same (as with astrology and astronomy), supported by church and government alike. Wise women practiced magical medicine all week and attended church on Sunday.
Yes of course, that’s all true and I know all that. BUT that’s still our world–not two separate worlds. In order for FTL to have Christianity–actual Christianity, not just an organized religion that draws from the religion because that’s the context A and E live in–THAT is problematic because the EF is a totally separate world from ours and in order for Christianity to exist there the same situation that existed in our world for the rise of Christianity had to happen in the EF.
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