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May 4, 2015 at 9:38 am #303723MatthewPaulModerator
I assume Zelena (if she’s in the finale at all. She might just be “off stage”) gets to be a family with Cora and Regina–a loving family
She is. There was a fan report that she was filming, and there was even a pic of her somewhere.
[adrotate group="5"]May 4, 2015 at 9:39 am #303724MatthewPaulModeratorCora is still needed for Regina to be alive so the Author would naturally write her in.
Bae isn’t needed for Rumple’s literal existence (his metaphorical one, yes but that’s another matter) so the Author can easily forgo including him in his fanfic.
I think Cora will remain dead, but Regina and Zelena will have different memories of her.
May 4, 2015 at 10:43 am #303731Heart of DarknessParticipantI think Cora will remain dead, but Regina and Zelena will have different memories of her.
Perhaps the story will be that Snow killed her?
May 4, 2015 at 10:47 am #303732Jiminy’s JournalParticipantMaybe Rumpel got some artifact.
As for Henry, I speculated in another thread that he’ll be like Marty McFly.
May 4, 2015 at 11:22 am #303738MatthewPaulModeratorPerhaps the story will be that Snow killed her?
Which fittingly, she technically already did.
May 4, 2015 at 11:26 am #303739RumplesGirlKeymasterPerhaps the story will be that Snow killed her?
Which fittingly, she technically already did.
Yes Isaac would like that–keep the same event but give it a new motivation. Snow killed Cora to keep her family safe in S2; in S4B AU she does it cause she’s a villain
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 4, 2015 at 11:31 am #303740MatthewPaulModeratorSo concerning what Rumple and Isaac do to Hook in this AU, someone somewhere else suggested this interesting theory. What if in this reality, Hook becomes the coward? I could totally see Rumple telling Isaac do that to him.
May 4, 2015 at 4:54 pm #303772SlurpeezParticipantSo concerning what Rumple and Isaac do to Hook in this AU, someone somewhere else suggested this interesting theory. What if in this reality, Hook becomes the coward? I could totally see Rumple telling Isaac do that to him.
I could, too. However, the brief snippet we saw of Hook makes him look like a swashbuckler still. He’s still dressed in black, he’s still wearing guy-liner, and he even has his hook still. Based on that, I think Hook is still a pirate in the AU, since he seems to straddle the line between hero and anti-hero. Come to think of it, how does Hook still have his hook if this is an AU? It seems Isaac didn’t want to change Hook’s characterization that much, since he could’ve easily written Hook has having a hand again.
Also, if this is an AU in which the heroes and the villains swap places, then how is it Belle is still dressed like a fairytale princess? Belle is a hero in the original story, so shouldn’t she be a villain in the AU? I suppose maybe Rumple influences Isaac to leave her alone, since his happy ending is about being a hero and getting the girl. Yet, if the rules are now stacked against heroes, making them into villains who don’t get their HEA, then that role-reversal should technically also apply to Belle, meaning she wouldn’t be getting her HEA.
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May 4, 2015 at 5:37 pm #303776RumplesGirlKeymasterI think the only reason Belle isn’t getting the villain treatment is because this is Rumple’s HEA– so no way would he turn her into a villain while he’s a hero. In his HEA, they are married and in love. So, everything changes, except for Belle and that’s because the Author is writing the story for himself.
Maybe we should keep all this in mind–the writing of Heroes and Villains is Rumple’s subjective lens.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 4, 2015 at 5:46 pm #303779PriceofMagicParticipantThat looks like Hook is fighting Charming.
Perhaps Hook doesn’t change much because the author can’t see any purpose for him outside Emma’s love interest. He takes away that, what are you left with?
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