421/422 Finale: Sneak Peeks (1 -3)

I think in Rumple’s HEA (if that’s what we’re witnessing on some level) the Dark One’s curse isn’t a thing at all and he’s the Light One–or at least a very valiant knight.

I agree. And I do wonder whether Rumple would even want to have magic. If all he ever wanted was to be a hero, wouldn’t he want to get rid of the temptation of magic use (which always comes with a price)? I don’t think that the entire magic system can be rewritten by Isaac – at least, I hope not. That would be OUAT’s most giant gimmick  to date. Anyway, S4 has worked hard to establish Rumple as an addict (rather than just a coward who hides behind magic out of fear). Actually, I think whether he wishes to be rid of the addiction altogether, or whether he’ll want the benefits without the drawbacks will be quite telling about how hopeless he is at this point.

As for RH, I dunno. He seems to be taking on Prince Charming’s role (they even have Sean dressed in some of Josh’s old clothes) but instead of finding Regina he ends up marrying Zelena so he is denied his HEA. But he’s not necessarily a villain like Snow and Charming.

Unless, as someone theorized on this thread, Outlaw Regina interrupts the wedding and RH elopes with her, à la Charming and Snow.

To add to this: why isn’t the Sorcerer stopping all this, if the Sorcerer is out God-insert. Does he think there is a lesson to be learned on both sides and thus lets it play out? Does he need Emma to do her Stabby POOF thing in the end so he’s letting this happen to ensure that?

Don’t Henry and the Apprentice work together to put a stop to Rumple and Isaac’s dastardly plan? I always saw the Apprentice as being an insert for the Sorcerer, who was a pillar of smoke in EF of the past. Part of me (in a very crack-theory way) still wonders if the shady Blue Fairy isn’t magically disguising her voice as male to appear as that pillar of smoke.

The Apprentice is around and I think he’s working with Henry, but is that at the Sorcerer’s behest (and does that mean the Sorcerer is in SB? Or can he communicate with the Apprentice through visions? Long distance radio? Coconuts?) Or is the Apprentice just taking matters into his own hands?

I think the Apprentice might be working at the Sorcerer’s behest and communicating via some secret magical means.

I agree. And I do wonder whether Rumple would even want to have magic. If all he ever wanted was to be a hero, wouldn’t he want to get rid of the temptation of magic use (which always comes with a price)? I don’t think that the entire magic system can be rewritten by Isaac – at least, I hope not. That would be OUAT’s most giant gimmick to date. Anyway, S4 has worked hard to establish Rumple as an addict (rather than just a coward who hides behind magic out of fear). Actually, I think whether he wishes to be rid of the addiction altogether, or whether he’ll want the benefits without the drawbacks will be quite telling about how hopeless he is at this point.

I think Rumple will have magic. I think his new idea of a happy ending includes him having unlimited power but without having to pay a price. Basically, I think Rumple wants the same kind of light magic that Emma possess in the original story. Rumple has always secretly coveted Charming’s braveness, and Emma’s goodness. But I think Rumple does use magic as a crutch precisely because he is afraid. Yes, he’s an addict, but he is a cowardly addict, as exemplified when Belle banished him from SB and he said he was afraid (i.e. was magic-less). Rumple wants the power, precisely because he seems to have bought into the notion that it’s what keeps him, and Belle, safe, and makes him more of a man. His addiction to magic stems from his cowardliness. I think for Rumple, magic equals manliness because it empowers him. Rumple said in 4×1 that the happiest moment of his life was comforting his son that everything would be alright, that it was the first time he ever felt like a man. Rumple was branded as the town coward by Milha, and therefore spurned as being less of a man for not fighting. Without the magic, Rumple feels unable to protect himself or those he cares about (e.g. Baelfire), and somehow less of a man. The only time Rumple was really heroic was that time he sacrificed himself to save Bae and Belle from Peter Pan, and he did that without magic. Yet, dark magic also cost him his son, and later, his marriage. So yeah, again with the catch-22 scenario.

http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/05/once-upon-time-season-4-finale-sneak.html?

sneak peek #2 > author, Henry and RUMPLE in action
have not found the YOU tube version yet
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http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/05/07/once-upon-a-time-season-finale-clip-the-author-plans-an-unhappy-ending
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