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But my point is, magical rules are not insurmountable or impossible to overcome. There’s always a loop hole! For Pete’s sake, Zelena’s time-travel spell worked, even though it’s against the laws of magic! There’s always a loop-hole!
Well, there’s only a loophole when it’s convenient. I would think if there was a loophole to bring Baelfire back, then Rumple would have been on top of that a long time ago.
[adrotate group="5"]I’m glad they address Baelfire and why he isn’t a part of Rumple’s happy ending. In many ways I think the mistake the writers made with Baelfire, aside from killing him off in the first place, was that after his death they chose to ignore him and the important relationships he had with several of the main characters.They call Neal’s death “bold storytelling” but it wasn’t bold because there was absolutely no follow through afterwards. It’s like they chickened out of dealing with the full ramifications of that event.
The show is starting to acknowledge Nealfire now, but there is a sense of too little too late. These are feelings, opinions, etc that the characters should’ve expressed earlier in the series not over a season after the fact.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixSorry, I knew what I was trying to say but went slightly off track, give me a moment to rewrite.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of Felix#3
–struggled for power all their lives. I do wonder about the Author.
–dysentery and 40 year life expectancy. LOL
–omg. Baelfire. Can’t bring back the dead. Oh for the love….okay.
–Don’t you dare Rumple. Don’t you dare forget him
–Thank god. I was about to write off this show forever
–Did right by him, gone but can live with that loss. Except that you’ve been living with it JUST FINE AND NOT CARING
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"urely they know how the fans feel about Baelfire and they showed us that Bae is Rumple’s true happy ending. I can’t help but seeing Bae as the end game in Rumple’s story. They are setting it up.
They do know. And a good portion of the fans have a strong dislike for Nealfire. So by your logic they aren’t setting anything up but they are doing what I thought they’d do: close the door on him once more just like they did in 322 with Rumple taking the memory potion
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Just being nitpicky because im bored but…
-Arent ogres blind? How’d it see Henry all tied up there?
– Sooo…..all those people were just sitting patiently in their houses while the ogre was coming upon them? They didn’t think to run away or, oh idk, untie the young lad who was tied up outside their doorsteps for an entire conversation’s length of time? No? Well, I think we know who the real villains of this tale is.
OUAT S5: Peasants Strike Back."I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICurely they know how the fans feel about Baelfire and they showed us that Bae is Rumple’s true happy ending. I can’t help but seeing Bae as the end game in Rumple’s story. They are setting it up.
They do know. And a good portion of the fans have a strong dislike for Nealfire. So by your logic they aren’t setting anything up but they are doing what I thought they’d do: close the door on him once more just like they did in 322 with Rumple taking the memory potion
Going to have to disagree with your interpretations of my logic 🙂
1) There have been far too many mentions of Nealfire over the last few episodes for them to merely be acknowledging his loss. They could have done that long ago. The outcries from most fans about Neal’s death have long subsided and rather than ruffle those feathers again, I’m sure they’d know it’s best to let sleeping dogs lie. If they are bringing him back into the limelight, they got something up their sleeves.
2) There’s a reason Rumple told Robin that he didn’t identify with Neal as his son as Neal’s existence had been far too painful & lonely. I don’t believe for a moment that they were writing that so that Nealfire fans would accept his death. They are setting a story up for the future with Bae. They’ve been known to do this season’s in advance with LOST.
3) Had they really wanted to put closure on Nealfire they would have had Isaac say that NO quill or ink could rewrite the past. He didn’t. They have left the door open for the possibility of the quill & ink that created Rumple’s past to come back into play at some point. They’ve given us an actual loophole to the rule that magic can’t bring back the dead.
4) No scenes were more stirring than the potential reunion of father & son in The Return and again in Manhattan. RumFire reunions are the most emotional of all. They know this and I believe this is their ‘fireworks’ for the show’s finale.
5) If this author can change what he wrote, how do we know that there isn’t an author writing this author’s story and everyone else’s? He could always do revisions and change the direction of everyone’s course.
They are taking us into un-chartered territories with S5. New game, new rules. I will not close my mind to the possibilities, especially now that they’ve shown us a loophole. This loophole is a golden nugget to theorize with.
If I’m wrong, feel free to toss stale crackers at me BUT if I’m right, I think a box of cookies is more than appropriate. 🙂
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Going to have to disagree with your interpretations of my logic
1) There have been far too many mentions of Nealfire over the last few episodes for them to merely be acknowledging his loss. They could have done that long ago. The outcries from most fans about Neal’s death have long subsided and rather than ruffle those feathers again, I’m sure they’d know it’s best to let sleeping dogs lie. If they are bringing him back into the limelight, they got something up their sleeves.
2) There’s a reason Rumple told Robin that he didn’t identify with Neal as his son as Neal’s existence had been far too painful & lonely. I don’t believe for a moment that they were writing that so that Nealfire fans would accept his death. They are setting a story up for the future with Bae. They’ve been known to do this season’s in advance with LOST.
3) Had they really wanted to put closure on Nealfire they would have had Isaac say that NO quill or ink could rewrite the past. He didn’t. They have left the door open for the possibility of the quill & ink that created Rumple’s past to come back into play at some point. They’ve given us an actual loophole to the rule that magic can’t bring back the dead.
4) No scenes were more stirring than the potential reunion of father & son in The Return and again in Manhattan. RumFire reunions are the most emotional of all. They know this and I believe this is their ‘fireworks’ for the show’s finale.
5) If this author can change what he wrote, how do we know that there isn’t an author writing this author’s story and everyone else’s? He could always do revisions and change the direction of everyone’s course.
They are taking us into un-chartered territories with S5. New game, new rules. I will not close my mind to the possibilities, especially now that they’ve shown us a loophole. This loophole is a golden nugget to theorize with.
If I’m wrong, feel free to toss stale crackers at me BUT if I’m right, I think a box of cookies is more than appropriate.
According to Natalie Abrams, one of the journalists who have screened the finale, we can rule out Neal/Baelfire coming back in the finale at the very least. Sorry:
Though many fans wished the Author rewrite could mean the resurrection of Baelfire, there is a very plausible explanation why that can’t happen—though he is brought up more than once.
Source: http://www.ew.com/article/2015/05/08/spoiler-room-scoop-once-bates-motel-castle-and-more
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