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May 6, 2015 at 2:20 pm #303981Ranisha PittsParticipant
(sure Maleficient can be resurrected from dust but seeing Neal again? No that way too much…).
You have no idea how much I enjoyed that line. 😀
I don’t forsee Milha in this finale at all. I do wonder about King George and King Leopold. Others wonders, Pan and Felix? some people from Wonderland. etc etc etc etc
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May 6, 2015 at 2:35 pm #303984nevermoreParticipantJust a thought — all this talk of who does and doesn’t come back from the dead suggests that either Rumple or Isaac (or both) are keeping track of an entire cast of more or less episodic characters, and making sure that in that short span of time that Rumple has before he apparently succumbs to heart failure, he’ll meticulously mention them so that Isaac can write them in. Hmpf.
May 6, 2015 at 2:56 pm #303986Ranisha PittsParticipantSeriously. Doubtful, there’s even remains at this point. I know some of you all forget sometimes but Killian is not Snowing’s contemporary. He’s 100 years younger than Rumple, which means Milah lived hundreds of years ago too.
Actually Rumple and Hook are more than likely from the same time period. When Pirate Killian and Milha ditched together, Rumple was still his human self. He turn dark one post Milha & Pirate Killian. If there is a hundred year difference it would be more than likely that Hook would be 100 years older then Rumple since he is aware of Neverland. However I would say based on what we have, Hook and Rumple are roughly from the same time period or age or whatever they call it in Enchanted Forest.
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May 6, 2015 at 3:01 pm #303989RumplesGirlKeymasterHook and Rumple are only about 10-20ish years apart. Certainly no more than 30 and definitely not 100.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 6, 2015 at 5:17 pm #304005PriceofMagicParticipantHook and Rumple are only about 10-20ish years apart. Certainly no more than 30 and definitely not 100.
Correct. Essentially, Milah ditched Rumple for a younger man.
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Keeper of FelixMay 6, 2015 at 5:31 pm #304010obisgirlParticipantActually, it’s been stated Rumple’s about 300 years old.
The reasoning: “He’s 300 years old. He’s met so many people over the years that he’s been impressed and unimpressed by, he’s taken on their voices, he’s taken on their accents and their mannerisms. He’s layered so much he’s lost himself.” Once Upon showrunners Adam Horowitz and Edward Kitsis point out that every time we meet Rumple in fairy tale land he’s in a slightly different time period and so therefore Carlyle actually uses a slightly different voice every single time to show this gradual layering effect.
http://www.ew.com/article/2012/10/17/robert-carlyle-rumpelstiltskin
And Hook is 200 years old.
Killian: Believe it or not, I was once a child.
Emma: Yeah, like a million years ago.
Killian: It was more like 200.Family Business (4×06).
Anyway, the point is, it is still very, extremely unlikely Milah will come back anytime soon.
May 6, 2015 at 6:35 pm #304056PriceofMagicParticipant@obisgirl, I worked out that Rumple was only between 150-200 tops on the show and this is supported by Maths.
Say Rumple was 50 when he lost Bae through the portal. (based on RC’s age and to start with an easy round number)
6 Months later Bae meets Wendy.
In 3A, Darling Bros said Wendy had been Pan’s prisoner for “over a century”. (I believe the years of imprisonment were over 100 but under 150. If the number had been closer to 200 then they would’ve said “nearly two centuries”. Generally anything over halfway is rounded up whilst anything under is rounded down, so “over a century” is closer to 100 than it is to 200. Since this was 3A, which is post curse, it’s assumed that “over a century” includes the curse years which estimates 130 years imprisonment.
so 50 + 0.5 + 130 = 180.5 years old. Obviously there’s a bit of leeway because “over a century” isn’t an exact number but Rumple clearly is closer to 200 than he is to 300.
Hook is younger than Rumple. If we base Hook’s age on Colin (30s) as we did Rumple’s on RC (50s), Hook is 20 years younger than Rumple. 180 – 20 = 160. As I said, generally anything over half way is rounded up thereby making Hook’s 200 comment technically correct. Also to note, Emma said “like a million years ago” which is a massive over-exaggeration, Hook was correcting her to a more accurate representation “more like 200”. Hook was not saying he is 200 years old.
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Keeper of FelixMay 6, 2015 at 6:54 pm #304058RumplesGirlKeymasterActually, it’s been stated Rumple’s about 300 years old.
The reasoning: “He’s 300 years old. He’s met so many people over the years that he’s been impressed and unimpressed by, he’s taken on their voices, he’s taken on their accents and their mannerisms. He’s layered so much he’s lost himself.” Once Upon showrunners Adam Horowitz and Edward Kitsis point out that every time we meet Rumple in fairy tale land he’s in a slightly different time period and so therefore Carlyle actually uses a slightly different voice every single time to show this gradual layering effect.
http://www.ew.com/article/2012/10/17/robert-carlyle-rumpelstiltskin And Hook is 200 years old.
Killian: Believe it or not, I was once a child. Emma: Yeah, like a million years ago. Killian: It was more like 200.
Family Business (4×06). Anyway, the point is, it is still very, extremely unlikely Milah will come back anytime soon.
And that is actually just Bobby spit balling. There is no way they are 100 years apart because we saw Hook and Rumple together pre-DO curse, when Hook was a pirate (so post Liam) and Rumple was a human. That was said by Bobby back in 2012, but the in show canon shows that they aren’t anywhere near that much apart.
And I don’t think anyone here actually thinks Milah is coming back from the dead. It was a scenario someone tossed out just because dead doesn’t stay dead but no one actually believes we’ll see her in present day.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 6, 2015 at 8:14 pm #304067Ranisha PittsParticipantHow is Hook 100 years younger then Rumple when he meet Rumple before he was curse. Unless there was some major retconning going on that I missed post 3.15. I believe that Rumple didn’t become immortal until he became the Dark One. Was there some plot device that went on that included Pre Dark one Rumple drinking some magic life extending elixir that suddenly made him already 10o years Hook’s senior before they met the first time in the tavern. Also, does that mean both baby Bae and Milha are also roughly 100 years Hook senior? Long story short I just don’t see how that is possible unless Rumple was already 100 years when when he met Hook. So far the story pre 3.15 doesn’t seem to support that notion. I would say Hook could possible be older then Rumple based on the Neverland knowledge but seeing that he burnt the sails I don’t think that is likely either. Of course there mermaids that can get you to where you want to go….
"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
May 6, 2015 at 9:05 pm #304074WickedRegalParticipantHow is Hook 100 years younger then Rumple when he meet Rumple before he was curse. Unless there was some major retconning going on that I missed post 3.15. I believe that Rumple didn’t become immortal until he became the Dark One. Was there some plot device that went on that included Pre Dark one Rumple drinking some magic life extending elixir that suddenly made him already 10o years Hook’s senior before they met the first time in the tavern. Also, does that mean both baby Bae and Milha are also roughly 100 years Hook senior? Long story short I just don’t see how that is possible unless Rumple was already 100 years when when he met Hook. So far the story pre 3.15 doesn’t seem to support that notion. I would say Hook could possible be older then Rumple based on the Neverland knowledge but seeing that he burnt the sails I don’t think that is likely either. Of course there mermaids that can get you to where you want to go….
I was thinking the same thing…Hook went to NL long before Rumple became the Dark One, so shouldn’t Hook be older than Rumple?
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