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April 30, 2013 at 3:04 am #189920SlurpeezParticipant
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I had assumed, perhaps erroneously, that Hook learned about the dagger from Cora. He came back from NL to the EF to interrogate Belle, who said she didn’t know how to kill Rumplestiltskin, nor would she if she did. That’s when Regina hired Hook to assassinate her mother, but he sided with Cora instead.
From QoH
Hook: The Dark One – he must be stopped. You spent more time with him than anyone. There are rumours of a magical weapon that has the power to kill him.
He knows about something…but we don’t know if it’s the dagger.
Thanks for that refresher. Rumors doesn’t sound like concrete knowledge to me. Perhaps Bae let it slip, perhaps without meaning to, that his father could be killed by some means, but he didn’t name which weapon would do. That is why Hook sought out Belle’s help for more precise information, but she couldn’t help him. That is when Cora filled him in on the pesky details.
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April 30, 2013 at 4:20 am #189961lisasParticipantCheck this out
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/29/once-upon-a-time-season-finale_n_3180997.html#slide=1518374
Only one episode remains before the “Once Upon a Time” Season 2 finale, and creators Edward Kitsis and Adam Horowitz teased what to expect from the final two hours of the season on Monday morning.
The co-creators screened the first two acts of the penultimate episode, “Second Star to the Right,” for a small group of reporters and answered some burning questions as well.
Here’s what The Huffington Post learned during our conversation with Kitsis and Horowitz. Warning: Light spoilers ahead!
New Faces and Old Friends
As the first 10 minutes of “Second Star to the Right” can attest, the final two episodes of Season 2 will feature a number of characters from “Peter Pan,” including Wendy Darling. And since Bae/Neal (Michael Raymond-James) has a heretofore unexplained tie to Neverland that somehow relates to Hook (Colin O’Donoghue), the “Once Upon A Time” season finale will apparently be “very Hook centric” in terms of its flashbacks, while also giving Bae “more background as a character.”Kitsis promised that “what happens with [Bae] and Wendy and the Darling family is the emotional touchstone of what these last two hours are,” but fans will also see the return of Mulan (Jamie Chung), Aurora (Sarah Bolger) and Philip (Julian Morris) before the season is out.
Still, the creators pointed out, since they like to add new twists to old stories, even familiar characters from Peter Pan’s world will have a “OUAT” flavor. For example, “The shadow is probably not the lovely cuddly shadow we remember. The way we look at Peter Pan and the way we look at Neverland will be a completely different take,” Kitsis said.
A New Initiative?
Tamara (Sonequa Martin-Green) and Greg (Ethan Embry) are definitely up to no good, having kidnapped Regina and found a way of deactivating her magic in “The Evil Queen,” and the producers promise we’ll learn a lot more about the duo before the credits roll on the season finale. “You will find out who the home office is, you will find out what they want, but you won’t know why,” Kitsis revealed. “Since we’ve all been trained with Initiatives and secret organizations, we are hoping to lead you down a different path.”Horowitz added, “They’re here for a mission, and whether or not they succeed in that mission will be in the finale … more about them and their background and their motivations will be revealed, and it will all be tied into the end run of the next episode and a half.” We’ll also find out what happened to Greg’s missing father in “Second Star to the Right.”
Bad Company
The producers promised a “very honest conversation” between Rumple (Robert Carlyle) and Belle/Lacey (Emilie de Ravin) in “Second Star to the Right,” which will also play into the prophecy about Henry (Jared Gilmore) somehow being his grandfather’s undoing. “Right now he’s … clearly on a bender with Lacey, he’s clearly abandoned his son. Our characters like to repeat their own mistakes because I think we as humans constantly repeat our own mistakes,” Kitsis pointed out. “The villains this year are all trying to go on the straight and narrow and none of them can seem to get off the bottle, and so … I would hate to find out, if [Lacey] heard about this prophecy, what she thinks about letting a little child stand in the way.”Heart of Darkness
Snow’s (Ginnifer Goodwin) darkening heart will be a “huge part in the finale,” Horowitz said. “It’s really starting to motivate her and push her. There’s a lot of feelings of guilt for what she’s done and she sees a tough road ahead of her, which is, ‘How do I heal this dark heart?'”Love is in the Air
Despite all the doom and gloom of a magical trigger that could potentially wipe Storybrooke off the map, the showrunners promised that there would still be developments on the romantic front. “You see Emma [Jennifer Morrison] really suppressing her feelings. It’s obvious she still holds a torch for Neal; it’s obvious that he still has feelings for her,” Kitsis said. “She’s so scarred. It’s hard for her to open up her heart … I’d like to explore that and I think next year we’d love to explore what happens when other people find love — we see it with Rumple, but I think love is pretty much what the franchise of the show is. Everyone’s in search of it but they pick really stupid ways to get to it.”Horowitz agreed, “Before the end of the season, you’ll see more of the Rumple and Belle/Lacey relationship, so love plays a big part in the rest of the season. Whether they’ll be happy and together is another question …”
Magic Touch
The show will also “explore the magic inside” Emma in the final two installments, Kitsis previewed. “I think there’s a part of Emma that is still reeling from all this. I don’t think she cares for it — was the first time she starts to question it … She’s really embraced being a mother this year, and she’s really coming to grips with it … In the finale, it’s going to set up for her next year to say I have a new purpose and maybe it’s time I commit either one way or the other.”What are your predictions for the final two episodes of the season? Who do you think Greg and Tamara are working for and how do you think Bae ties into Neverland? Weigh in in the comments!
“Once Upon a Time” airs Sundays at 8 p.m. ET on ABC.
April 30, 2013 at 5:00 am #189969PheeParticipant@RumplesGirl wrote:
Hooked on Neverland
The next two episodes are, in many ways, one prolonged story with both installments focusing on Baelfire’s backstory, and how he could become Peter Pan. “We’ve hinted that Baelfire knew somebody from the world of Peter Pan and we know that he has a weird connection to this person,” Kitsis told us. “And this person will be seen and he has beautiful guyliner … and a shiny hand.” He added, “The finale is very Hook-centric in the flashback.”I’m so excited for this stuff I’m just about bouncing off the freaking walls!
@RumplesGirl wrote:
Kat: I just posted it over in the spoiler 222 section but here it is for those who haven’t made it over there yet
*DIES* Bring it ooooooonnnnnnnn!
What Is The Home Office?
In the clip, Tamara talks about sending the magic beans and Regina’s black diamond back to The Home Office for analysis. The creators promise fans will learn what The Home Office is and what they’re after, but not why they want it over the next two episodes.Seeing the term “Home Office” crammed together 3 times in one paragraph reminded me of Jane’s tweet from a couple of months back…
…maybe it’s nothing, but I’m just sayin’, it reminded me of her tweet. There’s no place like The Home Office?April 30, 2013 at 12:56 pm #190008RumplesGirlKeymasterI must have missed that Jane tweet. But if I’m right about Dorothy being the head of the organization GOAT work for, I’m going to die of shock. Seriously. It was one of my crackpot theories, I didn’t mean it seriously. 🙂
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