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514 – Promo and Behind the Scenes Photos

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Season Five › 5×14 “Devil’s Due” › 5×14 “Devil’s Due” spoilers › 514 – Promo and Behind the Scenes Photos

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  • March 20, 2016 at 5:53 pm #319568
    hjbau
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    All i am hoping for is that this isn’t when Milah met Hook and that Hook doesn’t save little Bae. That would be so much stupid that it is unthinkable, but since that is true and knowing these writers, it could happen. I just want Hook to not be involved it whatever is going on in the flashback.

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    March 20, 2016 at 6:14 pm #319570
    RumplesGirl
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    What if it is something like this.  He is brought back from (near) death, on the condition that his life can never be saved in a similarly magical way again.  That is, whatever intervention is being done to interrupt death can only be done once to any person. If it were the only option to save his life, of course they would accept that price, because if he died then and there, there wouldn’t be a second chance to save him anyway.

    Matt had suggested something similar. I was thinking about it earlier today, actually, and pondered this: if this theory is true, then why was Rumple at the end of 3B so determined to learn how Nealfire died (in Emma’s present day) so he could save him?

    I have no doubt that the theory is really solid and seems like an explanation we’re likely to get, but it would feel slightly retconish.

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    March 20, 2016 at 6:34 pm #319572
    Rainbow
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    Sci-Fi Girl wrote:

    What if it is something like this. He is brought back from (near) death, on the condition that his life can never be saved in a similarly magical way again. That is, whatever intervention is being done to interrupt death can only be done once to any person. If it were the only option to save his life, of course they would accept that price, because if he died then and there, there wouldn’t be a second chance to save him anyway.

    Matt had suggested something similar. I was thinking about it earlier today, actually, and pondered this: if this theory is true, then why was Rumple at the end of 3B so determined to learn how Nealfire died (in Emma’s present day) so he could save him? I have no doubt that the theory is really solid and seems like an explanation we’re likely to get, but it would feel slightly retconish.

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    Not to mention that i think Rumple says not sure if is on S1 or S2 that he knew for sure his son was still alive,  if that is the case of this theory, then hundreds of years have pass, how could he be sure Bae was still alive, if he had made this deal, yeah, i know they now retcon and any fan pointing that out gets called  hater.

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    March 20, 2016 at 7:37 pm #319591
    MatthewPaul
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    Matt had suggested something similar. I was thinking about it earlier today, actually, and pondered this: if this theory is true, then why was Rumple at the end of 3B so determined to learn how Nealfire died (in Emma’s present day) so he could save him?

    I have no doubt that the theory is really solid and seems like an explanation we’re likely to get, but it would feel slightly retconish.

    Time travel could still be the possible loophole, since he technically wouldn’t be curing Neal’s ailment after the fact, but would be preventing it from happening in the first place. But who knows, they could also say that time travel still has its own set of strings attached. Like maybe Neal would have still been destined to die, even if Rumple did his best to try and prevent his death. In other words, fate still has its way, and it’s just a matter of different steps to get from point A to point B. After all, Marian still died in the end, even if it was Zelena’s doing instead of Regina’s. That would also mean that Elsa was always destined to be released from the urn. I guess you could describe this theory as course correction, and yeah I know it sounds a bit contrived.

    However, this also goes back to Rumple trying to prevent fate in “Manhattan”. The Seer told Rumple that his actions on the battlefield would leave Baelfire fatherless, which led to Rumple breaking his leg (ignoring the retcon from “The Bear and the Bow”) to return home to his son. Of course, Rumple’s actions led to him being ridiculed as the village coward, spiraling to his downhill descent to Dark Oneness. With Rumple’s lack of self-esteem to protect his son, the dagger of the Dark One was just too tempting of an offer for a desperate soul such as himself. This ultimately resulted in losing Baelfire through the portal. When Rumple told the Seer how she left out all of the “pesky details”, she responded by saying that there was no way of escaping what fate already had in store for him. If this is true, would Rumple have died on the battlefield, leaving Baelfire fatherless back then as he originally feared?

    March 20, 2016 at 9:44 pm #319609
    hjbau
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    Okay, at least Hook was just there, he didn’t save little Bae.

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