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She also pulled that book out in the brief scene with her mother in 406. Clear shot of the title there.
This title for an ep made me squee so hard.
But I also fear it. Every time there’s an ep I’m really looking forward to…pain follows fast.
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She also pulled that book out in the brief scene with her mother in 406. Clear shot of the title there.
Yes, this is just as significant with Belle’s relationship with her mother as it is with Rumple. The first time she read it was with her mom as a kid.
Let’s just pray that Her Handsome Hero is Rumple instead of Gaston. I literally put nothing past OUAT at this point in the game…and Gaston was most known for his narcissistic behavior considering he was “handsome.”
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Let’s just pray that Her Handsome Hero is Rumple instead of Gaston. I literally put nothing past OUAT at this point in the game…and Gaston was most known for his narcissistic behavior considering he was “handsome.”
Uhhh that would be awful. What I’m hoping is that her handsome hero is referring to Rumple, and she sort of is making fun of Gaston. Like, she doesn’t need him, her handsome hero is right here, and his name is Rumple.
Uhhh that would be awful. What I’m hoping is that her handsome hero is referring to Rumple, and she sort of is making fun of Gaston. Like, she doesn’t need him, her handsome hero is right here, and his name is Rumple.
I think generally speaking, when OUAT plays with inversions, it’s predominantly one-directional. I.e. known fairytale baddies tend to be bad on OUAT (though sometimes they have a redemptive arc), while some famous good guys (Pan, Arthur) turn out to be bad as well. I can’t think of an example of a notorious villain being recast as straight-forwardly good.
This would, of course, be a lovely opportunity for the show to reflect on the “handsome hero” trope in the first place. At this point, OUAT’s heroes are already so problematic that I can’t imagine the title would be straight forward.
On the other hand, I’ve no doubt that they can botch it spectacularly. The fact that it’s written by Jerome Schwartz is making me nervous. He also gave us “Enter the Dragon” (if I recall, this is the one where being evil = taking shots and trashing cars) and “Broken Kingdom” (wasn’t that the magic roofie episode?) Point is, I don’t love the gender politics in this fellow’s writing. I think he’s trying to tackle “difficult themes” but he isn’t always, shall we say, successful.
Uhhh that would be awful. What I’m hoping is that her handsome hero is referring to Rumple, and she sort of is making fun of Gaston. Like, she doesn’t need him, her handsome hero is right here, and his name is Rumple.
I think generally speaking, when OUAT plays with inversions, it’s predominantly one-directional. I.e. known fairytale baddies tend to be bad on OUAT (though sometimes they have a redemptive arc), while some famous good guys (Pan, Arthur) turn out to be bad as well. I can’t think of an example of a notorious villain being recast as straight-forwardly good. This would, of course, be a lovely opportunity for the show to reflect on the “handsome hero” trope in the first place. At this point, OUAT’s heroes are already so problematic that I can’t imagine the title would be straight forward. On the other hand, I’ve no doubt that they can botch it spectacularly. The fact that it’s written by Jerome Schwartz is making me nervous. He also gave us “Enter the Dragon” (if I recall, this is the one where being evil = taking shots and trashing cars) and “Broken Kingdom” (wasn’t that the magic roofie episode?) Point is, I don’t love the gender politics in this fellow’s writing. I think he’s trying to tackle “difficult themes” but he isn’t always, shall we say, successful.
But he also wrote Smash the Mirror, which was pretty decent. I don’t think there is a rule to which writer writes good episodes and which one writes bad ones. Even A&E had bad episodes (511) and Jane Espenson (503).
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But he also wrote Smash the Mirror, which was pretty decent. I don’t think there is a rule to which writer writes good episodes and which one writes bad ones. Even A&E had bad episodes (511) and Jane Espenson (503).
What’s funny is I too actually looked at the body of work for Jerome Schwartz on OUAT and overall was quite happy he was writing this episode. As you pointed out, he worked on Smash the Mirror which I enjoyed, Enter the Dragon was a miss I think too, but he worked on Sympathy for the De Vil, which I thought was outstanding. And this season, he did do Broken Kingdom. Funny enough, I enjoyed broken kingdom mainly because it showed that Snow and Charming aren’t total idiots (and I didn’t get offended like some people did and I think the guy who played Arthur did a solid job of portraying the cry baby obsessed, manipulative child that Arthur was). And then, he worked on Birth which I thought was very good. Overall, I’d say I’ve enjoyed the episodes he has done.
But he also wrote Smash the Mirror, which was pretty decent. I don’t think there is a rule to which writer writes good episodes and which one writes bad ones. Even A&E had bad episodes (511) and Jane Espenson (503).
What’s funny is I too actually looked at the body of work for Jerome Schwartz on OUAT and overall was quite happy he was writing this episode. As you pointed out, he worked on Smash the Mirror which I enjoyed, Enter the Dragon was a miss I think too, but he worked on Sympathy for the De Vil, which I thought was outstanding. And this season, he did do Broken Kingdom. Funny enough, I enjoyed broken kingdom mainly because it showed that Snow and Charming aren’t total idiots (and I didn’t get offended like some people did and I think the guy who played Arthur did a solid job of portraying the cry baby obsessed, manipulative child that Arthur was). And then, he worked on Birth which I thought was very good. Overall, I’d say I’ve enjoyed the episodes he has done.
I thought that Snow finally became smart again, and then it was revealed that it was a tedious plan to discover that Arthur has been working against them, which OK, but they also revealed to Athur they were on to hin, and then they took pride in it in a “we’re so perfect” way that it really put me off.
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^^ Sympathy for the De Vil was actually quite good – and probably one of the strongest episodes of the season. I admit, I’m a bit biased against Smash the Mirror, though the episode itself wasn’t terrible. I just didn’t care for the entire Frozen arc in the first place.
But then, there’s Birth. I think some people were fans — I thought it was a sloppy mess with strange pacing that generated more plot holes than answers, and jettisoned the entire Dark One mythos for, in my opinion, very very little pay off.
On the other hand, if the Gaston subplot is just a self-contained one-off, like Cruella’s story, and doesn’t try to radically influence the overarching plot, then it might be just fine.
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