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520 Title: Firebird

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Season Five › 5×20 “Firebird” › 5×20 “Firebird” spoilers › 520 Title: Firebird

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  • February 17, 2016 at 12:43 pm #316985
    Slurpeez
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    Phoenix was always associated with Henry, and by extension, his parents. *sigh*

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    February 17, 2016 at 12:43 pm #316986
    Slurpeez
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    This is like putting salt in the wound.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    February 17, 2016 at 1:13 pm #316990
    Jiminy’s Journal
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    Nitpick: The “Firebird” is the name of a distinctly different bird in Russian folklore, not an interchangeable word for Phoenix (though phoenixes are strictly speaking “fire birds”, yes). Assuming the title’s meant to refer to resurrection, I’m actually really bugged that they didn’t go with simply Phoenix or From the Ashes or something because Firebirds don’t resurrect.

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    So, more Moltres than Ho-Oh?

    February 17, 2016 at 1:29 pm #316992
    PanTheMan
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    This could also be another reference to Fantasia.

    February 17, 2016 at 1:47 pm #316994
    Keb
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    I’m wondering if this will have any connection at all to Snow, since it’s established that she has a connection with birds.

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    February 17, 2016 at 5:47 pm #317027
    nevermore
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    Nitpick: The “Firebird” is the name of a distinctly different bird in Russian folklore, not an interchangeable word for Phoenix (though phoenixes are strictly speaking “fire birds”, yes). Assuming the title’s meant to refer to resurrection, I’m actually really bugged that they didn’t go with simply Phoenix or From the Ashes or something because Firebirds don’t resurrect.

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    You’re so right. And if Firebird=Pheonix, they are doing some serious mixing metaphors. At least in Slavic folklore, not only does the firebird have nothing to do with resurrection, but it also usually spells major problems for the protagonist (i.e. it’s a quest item in Slavic fairytales, where the protagonist has to go fetch said bird after finding a feather, usually for someone else, and running into all sorts of trouble on the way). Anyway, unless they meant it that way, the Firebird usually is a lot more trouble than it’s worth 😉

    February 17, 2016 at 6:02 pm #317029
    MatthewPaul
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    SirMedraut wrote:

    Nitpick: The “Firebird” is the name of a distinctly different bird in Russian folklore, not an interchangeable word for Phoenix (though phoenixes are strictly speaking “fire birds”, yes). Assuming the title’s meant to refer to resurrection, I’m actually really bugged that they didn’t go with simply Phoenix or From the Ashes or something because Firebirds don’t resurrect.

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    You’re so right. And if Firebird=Pheonix, they are doing some serious mixing metaphors. At least in Slavic folklore, not only does the firebird have nothing to do with resurrection, but it also usually spells major problems for the protagonist (i.e. it’s a quest item in Slavic fairytales, where the protagonist has to go fetch said bird after finding a feather, usually for someone else, and running into all sorts of trouble on the way). Anyway, unless they meant it that way, the Firebird usually is a lot more trouble than it’s worth ?

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    Wouldn’t be the first time the writers have mixed up mythologies, if they do go for the Firebird=Phoenix route.

    February 17, 2016 at 6:43 pm #317036
    RumplesGirl
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    Nitpick: The “Firebird” is the name of a distinctly different bird in Russian folklore, not an interchangeable word for Phoenix (though phoenixes are strictly speaking “fire birds”, yes). Assuming the title’s meant to refer to resurrection, I’m actually really bugged that they didn’t go with simply Phoenix or From the Ashes or something because Firebirds don’t resurrect.

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    You expect these writers to be familiar with the nuances of world mythology?

     

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    February 17, 2016 at 10:09 pm #317071
    MatthewPaul
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    Seeing the latest set photos, I’m willing to bet that the title is referring to the jacket, and that there will be a flashback showing the origins of how Emma got said jacket. The strange new character here appears to be wearing it, and it looks like Emma is donning her “Tallahassee” era glasses. Maybe the new character Emma meets here goes by the nickname “Firebird” because she wears that jacket or Emma creates the nickname for the jacket herself.

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    February 17, 2016 at 10:19 pm #317074
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    So Emma’s superhero cape came from a stranger we’ve never heard of or has even been alluded to? She’s our new MacGuffin, if the non-magical variety.

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