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February 17, 2016 at 10:42 pm #317076SlurpeezParticipant
So Emma’s superhero cape came from a stranger we’ve never heard of or has even been alluded to? She’s our new MacGuffin, if the non-magical variety.
Seriously, THIS.
Any guesses as to who the stranger (who is a young woman) is? My own guess is the stranger in the red jacket could be a bounty hunter who taught Emma everything she knows and inspired Emma to also become a bail bondsperson and helped Emma turn her life around after prison. Perhaps the stranger then died in the line of duty, giving her red coat to Emma.
[adrotate group="5"]"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
February 17, 2016 at 10:47 pm #317077MatthewPaulModeratorAny guesses as to who the stranger (who appears to be a young woman)?
Either she’s an ordinary woman from the Land Without Magic, or she is yet ANOTHER character Emma met who originated from Fairy Tale Land or some other realm. Considering this show’s track record with figures from Emma’s past, I’d go with the latter. August, Merlin, Neal, Lily, and Ingrid. Walsh too, if you include Emma’s time in New York during the missing year. Chances are, she’ll encounter this person again in the Underworld, too.
February 17, 2016 at 10:55 pm #317078SlurpeezParticipantEither she’s an ordinary woman from the Land Without Magic, or she is yet ANOTHER character Emma met who originated from Fairy Tale Land or some other realm. Considering this show’s track record with figures from Emma’s past, I’d go with the latter. August, Merlin, Neal, Lily, and Ingrid. Walsh too, if you include Emma’s time in New York during the missing year. Chances are, she’ll encounter this person again in the Underworld, too.
I agree that in addition to my theory about her being the one to mentor Emma about being a bail bondswoman, the stranger is most likely from the Enchanted Forest or some other magical land.
Does anyone else think the stranger could be Meg? Meg was resurrected by Hercules, so a Meg-centric episode called Firebird would make a lot of sense (especially if the term Firebird is being used interchangeably with phoenix, which dies only to be reborn from the ashes).
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
February 17, 2016 at 10:55 pm #317079nevermoreParticipantConsidering this show’s track record with figures from Emma’s past, I’d go with the latter. August, Merlin, Neal, Lily, and Ingrid. Walsh too, if you include Emma’s time in New York during the missing year. Chances are, she’ll encounter this person again in the Underworld, too.
My crackpot theory du jour is that this is young Persephone.
Though how this might relate to firebirds, I’ve no idea 🙂
February 17, 2016 at 10:55 pm #317080RainbowParticipantEither she’s an ordinary woman from the Land Without Magic, or she is yet ANOTHER character Emma met who originated from Fairy Tale Land or some other realm. Considering this show’s track record with figures from Emma’s past, I’d go with the latter. August, Merlin, Neal, Lily, and Ingrid. Walsh too, if you include Emma’s time in New York during the missing year. Chances are, she’ll encounter this person again in the Underworld, too.
Agree. And i still say that the early scenes in the morning where she is with the UW clothes, is on some new part of the UW never seen, bc she lost the jacket or gave it to her owner in UW, and she will get herself a new one, so morning scenes present, night scenes past, in whatever city that is supposed to be, she meets someone from EF again, in this case a human version of a Phoenix that has as nickname FireBird,just like archie that was a cricket in EF and now is a human.
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February 17, 2016 at 11:00 pm #317081SlurpeezParticipantMy crackpot theory du jour is that this is young Persephone.
Though how this might relate to firebirds, I’ve no idea 🙂
Persephone = Meg from the Disney cartoon Hercules, which, if I understood correctly, used the story of Persephone. It relates, because Hercules rescued Meg from the Underworld (unlike in the real Greek mythology).
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
February 17, 2016 at 11:02 pm #317083RumplesGirlKeymasterMy crackpot theory du jour is that this is young Persephone
I was thinking something along the same lines. I’ve also got her pegged as another mother figure to Emma–and she’ll give some line about how she learned to be a good mom from *her* mother who never stopped looking for her.
Though how this might relate to firebirds, I’ve no idea 🙂
If we think about it as a phoenix and not the Russian myth, then Persephone descends and ascends with frequency.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"February 17, 2016 at 11:07 pm #317084RumplesGirlKeymasternevermore wrote: My crackpot theory du jour is that this is young Persephone. Though how this might relate to firebirds, I’ve no idea 🙂 Persephone = Meg from the Disney cartoon Hercules, which, if I understood correctly, used the story of Persephone. It relates, because Hercules rescued Meg from the Underworld (unlike in the real Greek mythology).
I don’t discount this lady being Emma’s mentor/Mother figure/bail bonds lady friend but I’m not so sure about Meg. I guess the Disney film uses the Persephone myth but only in the most loose way possible. You have a young woman and Hades and that’s really it. Persephone isn’t really an actor in the tragedy. She just gets abducted; Demeter is the real player. Meg sold her soul to Hades and works for him; Persephone just cries a lot. And while you could call the end of the myth a rescue, it’s a very temporary one given that Persephone has to descend every six months. So it’s like…a very loose connection.
ETA: though you’re right that Disney plays very fast and loose with Megera’s real story from Greek mythology.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"February 17, 2016 at 11:11 pm #317086RainbowParticipantBeing Persephone, would make sense being a Hades centric and in fact would make sense that this is all in present time, lik Hades makes a deal with Emma that he let everyone leave if she goes to Land without Magic find Persephone, so she has UW clothes and has to use her bail bonds and goes wth her past look to try to find the person and take her back to UW. I know makes no sense, and i think we are think this to much for ouat, will be probably some retcon, mix with confusing timeline and some random person that will never be mention again.
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February 17, 2016 at 11:14 pm #317087SlurpeezParticipantI sorta doubt the show would introduce Persephone (whom most of audience probably haven’t heard of), but most of the audience will have heard of Meg from the Disney cartoon. So, yeah, still going with Meg (but am more than happy to be shown otherwise).
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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