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October 25, 2015 at 11:41 pm #310885KebParticipant
Honestly I think what made this episode great for me was that it did focus on Emma, Regina, and Henry (and a little bit Rumple), who are the core of the show. Robin and Hook were set aside for a bit, and the show actually aimed for some continuity with everything that’s gone down for our three central characters over the past four seasons. (Don’t get me wrong, I like Hook, but sometimes he feels overwhelmingly present; Robin I’ve got mixed feelings about.) It focused on the family relationships more than the romantic ones (except for Henry’s) and THAT is what made it really powerful. The driving tension was how the darkness drove family members to hurt one another–from the review of Cora’s murdering Daniel to Emma’s own betrayal and manipulation of Henry, backgrounded with echoes of Rumple’s relationship with his own son.
The romantic relationships ARE important (it’s part of how you grow a family, after all) but the show is strongest when it focuses on the family relationships, which are messy enough without trying to make the romantic ones messier. *coughZelena’spregnancycough* There are strong episodes that focus on romance (Skin Deep, duh) but what makes these characters come alive for me is all the other people they love besides their partner(s).
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October 26, 2015 at 12:19 am #310892Sci-Fi GirlParticipant–Carnival in a can….well, that’s one to describe Soda
The most annoyingly out of context product placement I’ve seen since … something else that I won’t get into right now. But Violet’s amazement over Pepsi was a little too forced. She doesn’t know what soda is so she says “Carnival in a can”? How does she know what a CAN is?!?!?! 🙄
–Regina shooting down Hook trying to teach Henry how to woo a woman. Atta Tiger Mom!
LOL, yeah. I’m a Hook fan and I always like him, but just at that moment he managed to look as sleazy as possible, LOL! 😆
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October 26, 2015 at 12:19 am #310893GaultheriaParticipantHenry shouldn’t get to feel sorry for himself after lying to Emma to get her out of the house. But okay, he’s a teenager, and teenagers sulk. Regina shouldn’t be critical of Emma manipulating Henry’s feelings, since Regina and Henry manipulated Emma’s feelings.
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October 26, 2015 at 12:25 am #310895GaultheriaParticipant“Carnival in a can” is practically a Jooky reference:
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October 26, 2015 at 1:59 am #310905onceaholicParticipantHaven’t read the others yet. Will do so afterwards.
LIKES
-Nice and slow and so emotional!
-All the scenes with Regina and Emma working together. They looked like true sorceresses in their costumes, loved it!
-JdD’s acting is improving, isn’t it? Loved all the Violet and Henry scenes. I knew from the moment Emma mentioning that she needed tears from a broken hear that she would use Henry’s though.
-Emma saw what happened to Regina in her youth and she shared her grief.
–Called it! Yep, I was right that the memories are stored in the dreamcatchers, and they would be the key to having their memories returned. (Or at least, my theory lines up with Regina’s theory right now).
DISLIKES
-Merida using the cup/Belle to make Rumple Brave. After watching episode 2 (?) I complained on this forum that Emma should just threaten Rumple that she would kill Belle if he doesn’t pull the sword. The writers are using this very round about way to keep Merida useful in SB and I don’t like it. I would prefer it if the story was tighter and Merida was used for other, more sensible reasons.
-Regina said that Henry was the hero for letting Regina open the door to Dark Swan’s home, with no ”thank you” to Belle.
-Robin Hood, though is a main character, not having enough to do again.
-Regina could have used the dagger to check if Emma was telling the truth about her parents being under the spell, instead of just complaining that she is not sure if Emma is telling the truth due to the influence of the DO magic. (Maybe she wanted to give Emma a chance and keep use of the dagger down to a minimum, though).
CONFUSIONS
-The first time Emma used a dreamcatcher in season 2 she used light magic, didn’t she? But this time Regina says that using dreamcatcher magic/ putting spellings on dreamcatchers/whatever involves dark magic.
SIDE NOTES
Season 3 ep 5 was the first clear flirtation between Robin and Regina. This time it was a kiss on the cheek from Violet to Henry.
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October 26, 2015 at 3:16 am #310907GaultheriaParticipant-Merida using the cup/Belle to make Rumple Brave. After watching episode 2 (?) I complained on this forum that Emma should just threaten Rumple that she would kill Belle if he doesn’t pull the sword.
How about if Emma is stalling for time? Maybe she is bound to go along with the Dark One’s ambitions, but she has enough individuality left to do it as inefficiently as possible.
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October 26, 2015 at 7:01 am #310909nonnieParticipantHenry shouldn’t get to feel sorry for himself after lying to Emma to get her out of the house. But okay, he’s a teenager, and teenagers sulk. Regina shouldn’t be critical of Emma manipulating Henry’s feelings, since Regina and Henry manipulated Emma’s feelings.[/quote=310893]
WASN’T IT REGINA who tried to convince Henry he was crazy and sent him to a psychiatrist for a couple of years? Emma does one manipulation and Regina gets on her high horse. ( granted it was with a borrowed heart)Henry should confront his mother and ask her if she returned the heart.
October 26, 2015 at 9:03 am #310912RumplesGirlKeymaster-The first time Emma used a dreamcatcher in season 2 she used light magic, didn’t she? But this time Regina says that using dreamcatcher magic/ putting spellings on dreamcatchers/whatever involves dark magic.
Yes I was confused about that as well. She did use Savior light magic in S2
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 26, 2015 at 3:50 pm #310947WickedRegalParticipantHenry shouldn’t get to feel sorry for himself after lying to Emma to get her out of the house. But okay, he’s a teenager, and teenagers sulk. Regina shouldn’t be critical of Emma manipulating Henry’s feelings, since Regina and Henry manipulated Emma’s feelings.[/quote=310893]
WASN’T IT REGINA who tried to convince Henry he was crazy and sent him to a psychiatrist for a couple of years? Emma does one manipulation and Regina gets on her high horse. ( granted it was with a borrowed heart) Henry should confront his mother and ask her if she returned the heart.
Wait a minute, wait a minute, Regina loved Henry with everything in her soul, mind, and heart, and he knew that! Henry only started to feel the way that he did when Regina told him that she had adopted him, thus beginning the concerns of whether she loved him or not, and combine that with that stupid storybook, and that’s where things went sour! Henry was happy for ten years! He was happy, and it didn’t start till he learned he was adopted and that stupid book pushed him, and he wasn’t in therapy for years, by the way Episode 2 broke it down, I’d say only a month or so before Emma got to town, and when you look at it from Regina’s point of view, she was cornered with a no win situation and did the only thing she could think of, it could have been worse…instead of therapy she could have went to her crypt, whipped up a potion and gave it to Henry, but she didn’t.
The reason Regina is on her high horse is because she expected Emma to resist such darkness, and the mere fact Henry was the victim puts that at an all time low. The Anti Heroes are expected to do such things, but not the Savior, even if she is temporarily the Dark One. Not to mention that Emma used traumatic event from Regina’s past as the method to hurt their son, which just adds fuel to the fire. Basically she’s letting Emma know that she’s gone to far this time.
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October 26, 2015 at 4:02 pm #310949TheWatcherParticipant-The first time Emma used a dreamcatcher in season 2 she used light magic, didn’t she? But this time Regina says that using dreamcatcher magic/ putting spellings on dreamcatchers/whatever involves dark magic.
Well Rumpel gave it to her. And when she used it wasn’t it to find out who killed Archie? I don’t think at the time “It’s dark magic” would have been such a hang up because A) The situation B) Regina was still a user of dark magic and C) It was Rumpel’s object, not Emma’s. The fact that it is Dark Magic is probably a given like most things he probably owns.
Honestly, I don’t see how using an object that can view memories is necessarily dark magic. The memory theft part, sure, but let’s be real. I think that could be a spell of great use to a lot of us. But hey, what do I know?
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