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When coming to the forums … I always love this thread . . . What were your FAVORITE AND LEAST FAVORITE MOMENTS from this episode 5 x 06 when we finally learn about the 5×06 “The Bear and the Bow”.
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[adrotate group="5"]SPENDING the weekend in northern MICHIGAN for a family wedding … will be back home in time to watch ONCE…. looking forward to seeing the big bear.
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This episode was a clunky, disjointed mess. I can’t believe I am saying this about a Rumbelle episode but I thought this one was only slightly above The Broken Kingdom but mostly boring, recton-y, and full of illogical plot holes and overly convenient moments that were never properly explained. But like Merlin told Emma, maybe it “doesn’t matter how” this episode happened.
LIKED
–Not much but there were a few funny oneliners like “was that a kick my little munchkin.” As much as I loathe Zelena, she does evil and not giving a single iota about anything well.
–JMo continues to impress as the Dark Swan and being absolutely cold.
–Rumple pulling the sword. I didn’t think it would work, in all honesty. I thought he’d save Belle but it wouldn’t be enough.
–Merlin’s a cutie. I like him.
–Merlin’s message was intriguing.
MIXED
–Belle’s adventure with Merida. I’m all for female friends going on bonding adventures but there was no sense to this one. Why was Belle in the jail to begin with? Why did she bring a book? Why did Merida “choose” Belle (just because she carried a book? Why not kidnap Merlin if she needed magic? Belle herself does not have magic, just a freaking book)? Merida’s overly long information dump about her father (shock! Child feels responsible for a parent’s death!)
–The bear looked better in the promo. But still, better than Mal’s dragon in S4.
DISLIKED
–There is a total lack of logic in this show. I mentioned a lot of this in the mixed but there was so much “convenience for the sake of plot!” Belle being there with a book, Rumple throwing a bag of anti magic into the bear’s mouth for reasons, Merida managing to knock off three arrows and everyone bows to her because “hey look what she can do!”
–The appropriation of Scottish highlander culture without really understanding it, and relying exclusively on stereotypes, is rather insulting.
–Belle’s cloak was ugly.
–The plot in Storybrooke has come to an utter standstill. Nothing is happening. Everyone stood around and stared at a magic mushroom and nothing happened.
–Merlin telling Emma that it doesn’t matter how he was in that movie theater. OMG. Just say that he projected himself to her! Make it up! Use a magical mcgufifn you have to! But don’t just wave your hand and go “it matters not, silly woman!”
–Rumple smashed Chip. ‘kay.
–According to everyone in SB, if Rumple loses his life that’s an acceptable price because he’s had so many chances. But Emma we totally have to save! OMG: get this through your heads, you hypocrites. The darkness has been canonically established to be a sentient entity that can corrupt even a SAVIOR. What does that mean? It means that Rumple was just as much under the influence of that darkness as Blessed Emma Swan. So it means we try to save BOTH. Because they BOTH matter and are family! COME ON. Remember when he sacrificed himself for his love and his son? For the town? He is worth fighting for, just like Emma.
–Rumple didn’t injure himself for his son, not even a little bit. Retcon. Horrible character assassination retcon. He did for Bae and he did it because he was scared. That mix of fear and heroism has always defined Rumple, it’s what made him complex and the writers just reduced him to a singular concept: cowardice. Malarkey. Absolute malarkey.
–Remember last week when Rumple talked about how he did everything for his boy! This show can’t even stay consistent from week to week, let alone arc to arc!
–“I killed Neal” *Emma doesn’t even acknowledge any of this*
–No. More. Magical. McGuffins. For. The. Love. Of. Everything.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"–Rumple smashed Chip. ‘kay.
–According to everyone in SB, if Rumple loses his life that’s an acceptable price because he’s had so many chances. But Emma we totally have to save! OMG: get this through your heads, you hypocrites. The darkness has been canonically established to be a sentient entity that can corrupt even a SAVIOR. What does that mean? It means that Rumple was just as much under the influence of that darkness as Blessed Emma Swan. So it means we try to save BOTH. Because they BOTH matter and are family! COME ON. Remember when he sacrificed himself for his love and his son? For the town? He is worth fighting for, just like Emma.
–Rumple didn’t injure himself for his son, not even a little bit. Retcon. Horrible character assassination retcon. He did for Bae and he did it because he was scared. That mix of fear and heroism has always defined Rumple, it’s what made him complex and the writers just reduced him to a singular concept: cowardice. Malarkey. Absolute malarkey.
–Remember last week when Rumple talked about how he did everything for his boy! This show can’t even stay consistent from week to week, let alone arc to arc!
–“I killed Neal” *Emma doesn’t even acknowledge any of this*
–No. More. Magical. McGuffins. For. The. Love. Of. Everything.
Yes to all this…and your whole post but seriously THIS.
Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.
–Rumple didn’t injure himself for his son, not even a little bit. Retcon. Horrible character assassination retcon. He did for Bae and he did it because he was scared. That mix of fear and heroism has always defined Rumple, it’s what made him complex and the writers just reduced him to a singular concept: cowardice. Malarkey. Absolute malarkey.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I did not enjoy this episode.
LIKED:
– The Emma/Zelena scene.
– Just being in the witch’s house. Idk why, but just being there was enjoyable.
– Blue body paint guy. Nice.
– Dark Swan being Dark Swan.
– Merlin’s voicemail. So Nimue is the good guy,eh? Can’t wait to see her next week.
MIXED:
– Bear Merida. It was cool but the bag of anti-magic thing was weird.
– Merida not heeding Belle’s words.
DISLIKED:
– Arthur. Quickly becoming one of my least favorite characters in OUAT history. Its taking so long for them to realize his shadiness.
– The majority of the episode.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC–Belle’s cloak was ugly.
even my old grandma never wore anything that ugly and she had some ugly moo moosDISLIKED
–There is a total lack of logic in this show. I mentioned a lot of this in the mixed but there was so much “convenience for the sake of plot!” Belle being there with a book, Rumple throwing a bag of anti magic into the bear’s mouth for reasons, Merida managing to knock off three arrows and everyone bows to her because “hey look what she can do!”
–The appropriation of Scottish highlander culture without really understanding it, and relying exclusively on stereotypes, is rather insulting.
–Belle’s cloak was ugly.
–The plot in Storybrooke has come to an utter standstill. Nothing is happening. Everyone stood around and stared at a magic mushroom and nothing happened.
–Merlin telling Emma that it doesn’t matter how he was in that movie theater. OMG. Just say that he projected himself to her! Make it up! Use a magical mcgufifn you have to! But don’t just wave your hand and go “it matters not, silly woman!”
–Rumple smashed Chip. ‘kay.
–According to everyone in SB, if Rumple loses his life that’s an acceptable price because he’s had so many chances. But Emma we totally have to save! OMG: get this through your heads, you hypocrites. The darkness has been canonically established to be a sentient entity that can corrupt even a SAVIOR. What does that mean? It means that Rumple was just as much under the influence of that darkness as Blessed Emma Swan. So it means we try to save BOTH. Because they BOTH matter and are family! COME ON. Remember when he sacrificed himself for his love and his son? For the town? He is worth fighting for, just like Emma.
–Rumple didn’t injure himself for his son, not even a little bit. Retcon. Horrible character assassination retcon. He did for Bae and he did it because he was scared. That mix of fear and heroism has always defined Rumple, it’s what made him complex and the writers just reduced him to a singular concept: cowardice. Malarkey. Absolute malarkey.
–Remember last week when Rumple talked about how he did everything for his boy! This show can’t even stay consistent from week to week, let alone arc to arc!
–“I killed Neal” *Emma doesn’t even acknowledge any of this*
–No. More. Magical. McGuffins. For. The. Love. Of. Everything.
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“He was a lot of things to me” “The only conclusion was love”
DITTO here …. I rate this episode 3/10 probably my all time least favorite episode … JUST A FILLER with no redeeming qualities…. too much like the FROZEN arc …. bad writing no action for our CORE characters …. do the writers even know the stories that have come before this?WHAT get my goat the most …. I came home early on purpose just so I would not miss this show… should have stayed where I was.
For some reason, Belle’s cloaked looked prettier upclose…like extremely up close than it did from far away. There was a point when we saw a full body view of her in the cloak and I was like what is she wearing? It looked normal when I saw in the promos from upclose though
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICRumplesGirl’s post sums up most of my feelings and frustrations with this episode.
Liked:
-Merlin: “Ah, well, aren’t you the clever one.” Belle: “Glad someone noticed.”
-Regina’s makeup
-Zelena: “Was that a kick my little munchkin?”
-Apollo bars… another nod to Greek mythology.Mixed:
-Merida and Belle’s adventure. I wanted to be invested, but I just wasn’t. The storylines aren’t the same, but I was reminded of Belle being paired up with Mulan in S2. To me, it felt a touch repetitive.
-Belle’s (ugly) cloak covered in roses. I see what you did there.
-Emma and Zelena’s conversation. I liked Zelena being uninterested in Emma’s deal. Yet something about Emma’s behavior here rubbed me the wrong way; I can’t quite put my finger on it. She seemed less like a cunning Dark One and more… desperate? Like I said, I can’t quite place what’s bothering me here.Disliked:
-The double standard when it comes to saving Emma but risking Rumple.
-The Charmings & co. leaving Arthur alone to ‘talk’ to Merlin. Hey did you see that gullible is written on the ceiling?Keeper of Regina's book of magic
Rumple didn’t injure himself for his son, not even a little bit. Retcon. Horrible character assassination retcon. He did for Bae and he did it because he was scared. That mix of fear and heroism has always defined Rumple, it’s what made him complex and the writers just reduced him to a singular concept: cowardice. Malarkey. Absolute malarkey.
Initially I had the same reaction, but part of me questions if Rumple was really telling the truth in that moment. It simply could have just been a desperate way to convince Belle that he was a coward, despite her believing otherwise. Perhaps he was even starting to believe in his own lies. However, Belle should have reminded him of the time he sacrificed his own life against Pan to save everyone.
-Merida and Belle’s adventure. I wanted to be invested, but I just wasn’t. The storylines aren’t the same, but I was reminded of Belle being paired up with Mulan in S2. To me, it felt a touch repetitive.
More than a touch. This is Belle and Mulan (s2) and Belle and Anna (s4) over again. Every time Belle gets a centric, it somehow is actually another female’s storyline and Belle is just sorta *there* mostly prodding the other female into heroism.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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