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June 10, 2015 at 11:30 am #305294RumplesGirlKeymaster
One of the things OUAT can be counted on to do fairly consistently is making the core characters somehow related to or have knowledge of the seasonal arc characters. For example, Pan was Rumple’s father; Zelena was Regina’s half-sister, and Ingrid was Emma’s foster mother. So the question remains, for S5A, how will the main Camelot characters–Arthur, Merlin, and Guinevere–be tied to our core cast?
Predictions?
For me, I think they’re going to make RH be one of Arthur’s knights (no, don’t ask me how that works timeline wise.) Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table and Robin Hood are two of the most beloved and influential English legends. If they decide to forget about Richard the Lionheart and his place in the RH cycle, they could easily tie Robin and Arthur together in a similar manner whereby Arthur replaces Richard the Lionheart has Robin’s ally and friend and Robin replaces one of Arthur’s Knights.
Also, I am going to suggest that Zelena knew Guinevere as a young girl, perhaps they were friends before Guinevere was tied in marriage to Arthur and forced to relocate to Camelot. It’s an easy way to explain Zelena’s necessity to the Camelot plot. I also think that the writers could consider it a delicious–if wonky–parallel that Arthur is in love with Guinevere but G. is in love with Lancelot, and Robin is in love with Regina but had a baby with Zelena (Guinevere’s friend). A and E like that sort of stuff.
And finally I am going to suggest that Hook had some sort of run in with Merlin without realizing that he was tangling with the Wizard. Merlin is known for disguises and transformations, so I wouldn’t be surprised if Hook and Merlin have met before without Hook realizing it. Given that Hook will most likely be leading the charge to find and rescue Emma, it makes sense that Hook would eventually have to tangle with Merlin and the writers like the “shock an awe” approach of having one of their core characters suddenly realize that the person they’re battling is someone they’ve met before.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"June 10, 2015 at 12:11 pm #305298SweetsParticipantf they decide to forget about Richard the Lionheart and his place in the RH cycle, they could easily tie Robin and Arthur together in a similar manner whereby Arthur replaces Richard the Lionheart has Robin’s ally and friend and Robin replaces one of Arthur’s Knights.
This is my prediction as well. The Lion tattoo came from somewhere and it looks like a crest. We also have no idea where Loxley is on the ‘map’. He might also be tied to Lancelot because they were both in the EF during Cora’s reign.
My prediction is that Guinevere is related to Regina from her father’s side of the family mostly because they are specifically casting a Latina. I think she’s suppose to parallel young Regina, in a marriage with Leopold.
I think Merlin could be tied to Rumple, Zelena, or Hook.
June 10, 2015 at 12:21 pm #305299RumplesGirlKeymasterMy prediction is that Guinevere is related to Regina from her father’s side of the family mostly because they are specifically casting a Latina. I think she’s suppose to parallel young Regina, in a marriage with Leopold.
Yes I considered that. There are also some legends that have Guinevere unable to get pregnant, which would tie back to Regina and what we learned at the end of 4B.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"June 10, 2015 at 12:57 pm #305301MatthewPaulModeratorWell, we already know that Rumple and Merlin have a history, aside from the origin of the Dark One Curse. Rumple also retrieved the gauntlet from Camelot, and knows quite a bit about Excalibur.
June 10, 2015 at 2:42 pm #305307TheWatcherParticipantCamelot is another realm, according to the graphic novels right? That makes things a bit more complicated for me to guess that some characters may have been there before. But then again *shrug*
Hmm. Did we ever find out why the Jolly Roger is “enchanted”? What if Merlin enchanted it for hook or something. That could be a thing.
Also, I could see RH having known Lancelot. In the original RH stories, isn’t RH actually a royal? or am I thinking of someone else.
Anyway, if there is a connection to the main cast, fine, but PLEASE DONT LET IT BE A FAMILY CONNECTION in the name of all that is wicked and good >.< I cant take anymore convulted family tree branches. But seeing as we will find out Lily’s father this season, it is bound to happen."I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICJune 10, 2015 at 2:47 pm #305308TheWatcherParticipantWell, we already know that Rumple and Merlin have a history
We do? I don’t think Rump ever met Merlin, just knew of him and his hat. Right?
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICJune 10, 2015 at 3:10 pm #305309RumplesGirlKeymasterIn the original RH stories, isn’t RH actually a royal? or am I thinking of someone else.
The most common interpretation, especially in pop culture, is that Robin is actually Robin of Loxley, the Earl of Huntington. The stories are more complicated because sometimes he is Robin of Loxley, sometimes he is Robin, Earl of Huntington, and sometimes he’s Robin of “some other place” but Hollywood has him fairly ingrained as the Earl of Huntington and of Loxley.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"June 10, 2015 at 4:56 pm #305310WickedRegalParticipantMy prediction is that Guinevere is related to Regina from her father’s side of the family mostly because they are specifically casting a Latina. I think she’s suppose to parallel young Regina, in a marriage with Leopold.
Yes I considered that. There are also some legends that have Guinevere unable to get pregnant, which would tie back to Regina and what we learned at the end of 4B.
Dun…dun…dun…..Regina does have at least four to five uncles on Henry Sr’s side of the family….they could make Guinevere her cousin. But the specific Latina casting does have me wondering.
But I do agree with @RumplesGirl & @Sweets that perhaps Robin Hood once had a history with Arthur/Guinevere. A knight of the round table is a strong possibility.
But as for who may have the connection to Merlin….Zelena just comes to mind. The most powerful dark witch born and the most powerful light wizard…..hmmmmmmmmmm. Is it possible there’s some history between Merlena, ooops, I mean Merlin and Zelena?
But my most biggest question is….what does all of this mean for Morgana Le Fay?
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
June 10, 2015 at 5:21 pm #305311TheWatcherParticipantSeems appropriate to re-mention this:
I think Regina is the one with the connection to the Sorcerer because of something to do with Cora. Cora had that magic staff stick thing that protected her from the curse. I think she got it from Merlin. Cora also had a connection to Lancelot, saying she killed him and took his form although A&E kind of implied she was lying or that we shouldn’t trust what she said. So yeah, I think there is some Cora/Merlin/Lancelot deal that was made to get Cora the staff and Lance out of the picture."I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICJune 10, 2015 at 7:09 pm #305317RumplesGirlKeymasterWell, we already know that Rumple and Merlin have a history
We do? I don’t think Rump ever met Merlin, just knew of him and his hat. Right?
We don’t know that Merlin and Rumple have ever interacted, just that Rumple seems to have knowledge of Camelot and the mythos/objects of it. That doesn’t necessarily mean that those two have a history, but it seems far more likely that that they do
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