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September 25, 2013 at 10:54 pm #212112
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KeymasterOut of this thing I could pull a hammer, a grilled cheese, I mean anything.’
That’s adorable.
Access: How worried should we be about Robert Carlyle’s [character’s] future on the show? Ginnifer: Well, I’ll say that I’m worried. So, there’s that.
WHAT. Ginny, shush. You know he’s not going anywhere. He has a 5 yr contract.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"September 25, 2013 at 10:54 pm #212113RumplesGirl
KeymasterSo I guess RH didn’t teach Snow with the bow after all huh?
I think they just mean presently. They haven’t filmed the Snow and RH story. That could still be to come.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"September 25, 2013 at 10:57 pm #212114runaroundmacy
Participant3) Surprise character comeback! You’ll never see this coming. What in the world?? Wendy perhaps? Racking my brain on this one!
We also know that Sydney/The Magic Mirror will be back in EP2. I have a feeling it’s just in reference to that in this case.
Neal’s initial mission is clear: he wants to travel to his father’s castle in order to find a magical item to contact Emma. Mulan will accompany him and they’ll stumble across Robin Hood. Will he be able to reach Emma? Let’s just say that some blood magic might help him along. Source: ScreenFad
So, we may see Neal using some interesting blood magic to find Emma and Henry? Sounds like the magic globe that Rumple has used to track Neal and Henry. I wonder if that will help Neal better understand what his dad went though to find him.
Ok so I had a really random thread of thoughts earlier today after reading the gazillions of spoilers coming out lately. I’ll try to make them as cohesive as possible, but they still don’t even make sense to me, but there are a lot of connections so forgive me if this is really rough and now completely thought out yet:
– We will find out about PP’s history with the Darlings and how important it is to the storyline (from some of the gazillion spoilers posted, I can’t find it to quote it)
– In the original play/story, it is heavily implied that Mr. Darling (Wendy, John and Michael’s father) went to NL. – PP has been looking for Henry for centuries, and of course we know that he mistakenly took Neal from the Darlings house.
– There are some really good theories going around in various forms that Rumple and PP are brothers.
– There’s even a theory that the Blue Fairy is PP’s mother! (hence the reason for her forbidding love to Nova/Dreamy).
– It is highly likely that PP either has a seer in his employ, or has the gift of foresight himself.
– Rumple used a magic globe, and his blood to find Bae *and* Henry. His blood line.
– Time works differently in NL.
So my random trailing thought was: What if the boy he’s been looking for has been *from his bloodline* all along? What if he knew that a boy *from his bloodline* would show up in the Darling’s house that would help him find the boy he needed? Maybe PP did show up at the Darling’s house, except Wendy and bros weren’t born yet? He overshot and showed up too early, because he had no sense of time being in NL, he just knew that’s where a boy would show up. Then, years later, he’s able to recognize that Bae is there and picks him up from NL, only to find out that he’s not the boy that he really needs, but he can’t kill him because he will produce the boy that will save him? Knowing that Neal will use magic, and *blood magic* at that, makes me really interested in seeing if this will be a common thread through the season. Rumple used it to find Bae and Henry, Bae is now using it to find Henry. How fitting would it be for PP to have used it this whole time to find his family/the boy that will save NL, if in fact, he and Rumple are brothers, (possibly from other mothers)? Those are my initial crazy thoughts. They’re totally nuts I admit it. But for some reason they seem to click in a way!
As for Wendy and THO, I really think this is a good, solid theory for those of you that have mentioned it. I can’t fully get behind it for this though: If Wendy/the Darlings *started* THO to find Bae because he was taken to NL -> Greg and Tamara work for THO and their mission is to bring Henry to PP -> PP wanted Henry and used THO to get him to NL -> PP would be the head of an organization the Darlings started to save Bae from PP headed by PP? I’m more inclined to think that they’re a part of it for some reason, but THO is a much bigger organization than we think. That is my crazy, long winded nutso crack theory for tonight. Discuss!
Keeper of the Cheshire Cat’s smile, Baelfire’s sword, Snow’s backpack, Robin Hood’s bow, Ariel’s purse, Ariel’s smile, Henry’s heart, Belle’s shoe collection
September 25, 2013 at 11:06 pm #212116Phee
ParticipantWe all know that despite being ridiculously attractive, Charming (Josh Dallas) and Hook (Colin O’Donoghue) don’t really have a whole lot in common and this leads to some hot alpha male struggles.
CaptainCharming gonna throw down!! Guess getting all that frustration out is what allows them to get along better.
Get ready to embrace your inner evil! The Dark One is back and just as wicked as we remember. However, Neverland is a place that makes your confront your past, and Rumple’s past is much more twisted then we could ever imagine. Two words: Daddy issues.
*shakes pom poms and cheers* Brothers! Brothers! 😉 Seriously though, this pretty much confirms for me that that doll was made by Rumple’s father. The writer of the article was talking about stuff seen in the first 2 eps.
Bonus Scoop: Hearing Neal explain to Mulan (Jamie Chung) how much he cares about Emma will tug on your SwanFire-loving heartstrings.
WAAAAHHHHH!
Robin Hood is one of the lucky few to have stayed behind in the Enchanted Forest post-curse has made himself quite comfortable in a castle that is filled with dark secrets.
He’s actually living in Rumple’s old castle?
3) Surprise character comeback! You’ll never see this coming.
What in the world?? Wendy perhaps? Racking my brain on this one!That was from the article listing 10 things from each ep, wasn’t it, (so many articles it’s a bit of a blur)? I think they’re just talking about the Genie.
Neal’s initial mission is clear: he wants to travel to his father’s castle in order to find a magical item to contact Emma. Mulan will accompany him and they’ll stumble across Robin Hood. Will he be able to reach Emma? Let’s just say that some blood magic might help him along.
Blood magic, you say? Hmmmmm.
I really need Neal to find his young Bae clothes. Like…a lot.
YES!!!
September 25, 2013 at 11:11 pm #212118RumplesGirl
KeymasterHe’s actually living in Rumple’s old castle?
I missed that. That’s sorta awesome.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"September 25, 2013 at 11:31 pm #212123Phee
ParticipantAccess: Yes! And how when it got really cold you were freezing your butt off and I’ve noticed you’ve got a coat on this season. Was part of that because of what happened last time around?
Ginnifer: Oh, 100 percent. Not only did I make sure that I took a coat, I made sure, in the finale, that I packed a backpack last season so that if I was desperate to change, I could justify pulling something out of my backpack.
Access: Look at that, you’re making it work!
Ginnifer: Well, the creators got mad at me, I mean, not genuinely mad, but they teased me that I had tricked them and there would be consequences. I said, ‘Na-na-na-na-na! Out of this thing I could pull a hammer, a grilled cheese, I mean anything.’
😆 😆 So THAT’S why Snow had a backpack. Sounds a bit like Mary Poppins’ bag of tricks. 😉
Knowing that Neal will use magic, and *blood magic* at that, makes me really interested in seeing if this will be a common thread through the season. Rumple used it to find Bae and Henry, Bae is now using it to find Henry. How fitting would it be for PP to have used it this whole time to find his family/the boy that will save NL, if in fact, he and Rumple are brothers, (possibly from other mothers)? Those are my initial crazy thoughts. They’re totally nuts I admit it. But for some reason they seem to click in a way!
If you’re nuts then so am I, because I LOVE it! Have been on Team Brothers for a while now, and I love the way you connected it all up like that with the blood magic to track family.
As for Wendy and THO, I really think this is a good, solid theory for those of you that have mentioned it. I can’t fully get behind it for this though: If Wendy/the Darlings *started* THO to find Bae because he was taken to NL -> Greg and Tamara work for THO and their mission is to bring Henry to PP -> PP wanted Henry and used THO to get him to NL -> PP would be the head of an organization the Darlings started to save Bae from PP headed by PP?
The general idea with this theory is that PP assumed control of the organisation that was initially set up to find Bae, and changed its purpose. I’ve recently started considering the possibility that Wendy could have actually been an anti-magic, hunter type, not that different to Tamara, (though not quite as ruthless, because we know that Wendy does have compassion). After Wendy came back from NL, she was all, “You were right, Bae, magic is bad news,” which is GOAT’s motto. So maybe the Darling children started THO as a means to not only find Bae, but to hunt down magic so it couldn’t hurt other families the way PP had hurt theirs, and so many others. So eventually the Darling children do find a way to get to NL, to try and rescue Bae, and PP’s all, “Nope, nice try, but NOPE,” and imprisons them there. He then assumes control over THO, still letting them go about their magic hunting ways in our world, with the exception that they’re no longer against him and his magic and his world. It means that PP has employees in our world which will come in handy down the line for Curse and kidnapping related missions.
September 26, 2013 at 4:59 pm #212290HappyEndings
SpectatorThis is from Hollywood Report and Lisa 🙂
Forget Storybrooke — at least for now. Once Upon a Time introduces a darker, more sinister world when season three opens: Neverland.
With the motley crew of Snow White, Prince Charming, Rumpelstiltskin, Captain Hook, Emma and Regina all on the Jolly Roger as they desperately search for Emma’s son Henry in an unfamiliar land (with unpleasant mermaids), things are bound to get tense.
Co-creators Edward Kitsis and Adam Horowitz have vowed that season three will return its focus to the core group of Once Upon a Time regulars, a welcome shift for star Ginnifer Goodwin, who previews the upcoming third season with The Hollywood Reporter.
How drastic of a change was it for you to start off the season in another world that’s not Storybrooke?
I thought that I was going to miss [Storybrooke]. I mean, we still have flashbacks to fairy tale land but I thought I was going to miss this world we already created. The second season was the only time that I had, thus far, gotten to play these newly reconciled characters, but truly being in Neverland — though it’s a completely different realm — it does have the tone of fairy tale land [because] it is magical. Getting to be there a lot is actually so much fun.
Do you prefer filming in a land that’s much darker than Storybrooke?
Absolutely! We know from the end of last season that Peter Pan is a villain, of which even Rumpelstiltskin (Robert Carlyle) is afraid, which means he is probably one of the greater villains of any realm. So his land, one could assume, is more sinister and one could also assume that a more sinister land is going to bring out qualities in our beloved characters that are a little on the darker side and that’s so much to say.
Edward Kitsis and Adam Horowitz have said that season three will return the focus on the core characters and explore their identities. Was this a significant — and welcome — change for you?
I signed on to the pilot because I loved the pilot. When you sign on to a series all you have is the pilot and being together like this — even in a new land, even as these new amalgam of characters that we didn’t expect — is a lot more like the experience of being on the pilot so I’m ecstatic about it. For all of the sort of annoying qualities, for instance Snow White forgiving the Evil Queen (Lana Parrilla) again and again and again, I love being stuck on a boat with her because under all of that layer of hate, there is clearly a layer of love. Or else they would have killed each other by this point. To really analyze and investigate the dynamics between these core characters is so satisfying.
You brought up the fact that Snow is stuck with people she doesn’t fully like or respect. How is that going to affect the group?
It’s going to be incredibly combative! (Laughs.) Ultimately you have two characters on this ship, Rumpelstiltskin and Regina, who have given themselves the title of dictator. They’re going to put their egos aside and we’re going to come together if we’re ever going to save Henry (Jared S. Gilmore). So chaos must ensue. But, because we do have this common goal, because that goal is sincerely all of our first priority, we are also going to have to change. And that I think is going to be satisfying for people to watch.
It also seems like family will be a big theme this season, and Emma and Snow have a very complicated past they have yet to fully explore …
They do! We were begging for an opportunity to concentrate on that dynamic because Jennifer Morrison and I both felt like — and we talked to the boys [Kitsis and Horowitz] about it — we loved where the story went, we loved our adventures. Everything was so exciting but every time we went to have a conversation about our relationship, we were interrupted and there was always some obstacle getting in the way of us really healing and growing together. And because we are stuck together without distraction, we can really analyze that dynamic and face ourselves and deal with our guilt and deal with our abandonment issues and see if we can move on from there.
How far does Snow go to earn back her title of “mother” to Emma?She’s clearly someone who tries again and again and again with everyone, so one can assume she will treat this relationship the same way — but with more passion.
What sort of hurdles will Snow and Charming be facing this season?
I think that another big theme this season is when is it OK to compromise? When is it OK to maybe do something that we wouldn’t necessarily define as having that much integrity but you know you ultimately have to do it for the greater good? Our relationship is really going to ask that question and what goes on between us based on what happens to Charming (Josh Dallas) is really going to exemplify that theme.
Which new characters are you most excited see viewers’ reactions to?
I begged not to be involved in the Ariel [played by JoAnna Garcia] storyline because I hate being wet. I assumed correctly that anyone involved in the story with Little Mermaid would in fact be. But I can tell you that Snow White and Little Mermaid do cross paths and I ended up finding it to be one of my favorite Once Upon a Time experiences because what the writers write is pretty spectacular. I love all these new characters coming in, and it doesn’t feel arbitrary in any way. Every time we’ve introduced new characters this season, it feels like what they have to offer is really necessary for us to achieve our goal.
Can you tease a scene that we should keep an eye out for?I will say that one of the things I love about this season is that the answers to these questions and these themes are not going to addressed in just one scene. The growing process for these characters is going to be ongoing but satisfying.
Once Upon a Time premieres Sept. 29 at 8 p.m. on ABC.
September 26, 2013 at 5:04 pm #212291HappyEndings
SpectatorSo they are finally listening to the actors good and going back to like they did in Season 1 that made the show great.
September 26, 2013 at 5:04 pm #212292PriceofMagic
ParticipantI wonder what happens to Charming?
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixSeptember 26, 2013 at 5:27 pm #212299Slurpeez
ParticipantWhich new characters are you most excited see viewers’ reactions to? I begged not to be involved in the Ariel [played by JoAnna Garcia] storyline because I hate being wet. I assumed correctly that anyone involved in the story with Little Mermaid would in fact be. But I can tell you that Snow White and Little Mermaid do cross paths and I ended up finding it to be one of my favorite Once Upon a Time experiences because what the writers write is pretty spectacular.
Hehe! And we know from Ginny’s tweet that she does in fact get wet in the “Ariel” episode.
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