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September 27, 2013 at 10:09 am #212429SlurpeezParticipant
Meanwhile, Neal has landed in the Enchanted Forest and after being away for so many years, it’s a safe bet that he’s not thrilled to be there. Mulan, Aurora and Prince Phillip are on hand to help. Naturally, they have questions, especially once they learn that was his original home. Aurora wants to help him get a message to Emma and offers to try and reach her in the altered state only people who have been under the sleeping curse can access, but will it work?
I have a feeling that it won’t work, at least initially. Otherwise, the JR6 would find out too quickly about Neal being alive. Emma and Rumple need enough time to believe Neal is dead for it to influence their behavior. I also think that is when Mulan looks for alternatives to help Neal contact Emma and Henry (i.e. the orb), and so she offers to take him to his father’s Dark Castle. Despite the red room dream not working initially, I think the dreams will work eventually, so that Emma discovers Neal is alive by about episode 3×7.
#4 Speaking of the lovely Emma, ‘Captain Swan’ fans are in for a treat. You might have already seen the clip of Emma and Hook toasting to Neal, but there are some great moments to come that will have shippers flailing and squealing.
I expect will see some classic fun and flirty banter coming from Captain Hook. He’s unable to resist making overt flirtations with any woman, but especially Emma.
#5 What if you prefer ‘Swan Fire’, you ask? Don’t worry; Neal and Emma might be in different realms, but there are still a few moments that will have fans of this ship holding their hands over their hearts and swooning.
*Swooning already* My guess these scenes will come in the form of Neal observing Emma through his magic orb. Neal is going to be motivated by his love for Emma and not just his paternal love for Henry. Neal is on a mission to get back to Emma to get a second chance with her.
[adrotate group="5"]"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
September 27, 2013 at 10:16 am #212430PheeParticipantRegina turning someone into stone could be fun if it was a mermaid. They’d go from attacking to just suddenly sinking.
Aurora wants to help him get a message to Emma and offers to try and reach her in the altered state only people who have been under the sleeping curse can access, but will it work?
I’ve always thought it probably wouldn’t, (due to time passing at different rates), and now I’m thinking that even more, because I really doubt they’d have Emma and Hook finding out that Neal is alive this early on.
#2 Greg and Tamara arrive in Neverland and Henry is quick to point out some of the major flaws in their schemes.
Hope he’s got a fun smartass remark about how dumb they are. 😛
We will see new Robin Hood (Sean Maguire) in the premiere, and guess what?—It’s not via flashback! Robin Hood is one of the lucky few to have stayed behind in the Enchanted Forest post-curse has made himself quite comfortable in a castle that is filled with dark secrets. He’ll be helping Neal in his quest to get back to Emma and according to the OUAT creators, he’ll be getting some major screen time this season.
I would expect Regina’s future love interest to get “major screen time”. 😉
September 27, 2013 at 10:19 am #212431SlurpeezParticipantWe will see new Robin Hood (Sean Maguire) in the premiere, and guess what?—It’s not via flashback! Robin Hood is one of the lucky few to have stayed behind in the Enchanted Forest post-curse has made himself quite comfortable in a castle that is filled with dark secrets. He’ll be helping Neal in his quest to get back to Emma and according to the OUAT creators, he’ll be getting some major screen time this season.
I would expect Regina’s future love interest to get “major screen time”.
Phee, I concede that you’re most likely correct about Robin Hood being Regina’s future love interest. Robin Hood might have lost his love, Marain. If so, then maybe two lonely hearts could find comfort in one another. The only thing that remains to convince me is the way in Robin Hood is written. If Robin Hood hates magic for destroying his family too much to overlook Regina’s sins, then I can’t see them ever happening. If RH himself feels guilty for using fairy magic to heal Marian, only to have that magic come with a heavy price, he might be more sympathetic to Regina if Regina ever shows true contrition for her past sins.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
September 27, 2013 at 10:23 am #212433RumplesGirlKeymasterNeal is going to be motivated by his love for Emma and not just his paternal love for Henry
According to Daniel Neal doesn’t even see Henry in NL. Just Emma
Regina turning someone into stone could be fun if it was a mermaid. They’d go from attacking to just suddenly sinking
Kinda love this image actually
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"September 27, 2013 at 10:31 am #212434SlurpeezParticipantEntertainment Weekly has some news about a brawl and a romance:
Sandra! Can you tell me anything exciting about the Once Upon a Time premiere? — Jennifer
Tensions on the big ship will reach an intense climax — one that will find Snow and Regina coming to blows! And they’re not the only ones. That’s right: HOTTIE FIGHT! Charming vs. Hook. I’d buy that one on pay-per-view!
Any Once Upon a Time scoopage? — Cam
I think Hook/Emma fans are going to like the premiere. Not that there’s a Moment or anything. But I certainly got the impression they’re having a little fun with these two this year more than ever. How far will it go, though? That was one of the questions posted to EPs Eddy Kitsis and Adam Horowitz during a press conference after a select few got to view the first two episodes. I will share scoop from that chat this Sunday after the west coast airing of the premiere!
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
September 27, 2013 at 10:38 am #212436RumplesGirlKeymasterCaptainCharming fights are always good but I’m really looking forward to the EQ and Snow battle it out. That has been a long time coming!
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"September 27, 2013 at 10:40 am #212437SlurpeezParticipantTV Line Spoiler: Q& A with E&A
Creators Address ‘Plotty’ Past, Preview a Future of Neverland Conflict, Charming Bonding, ‘Heat’ for Regina and More
TVLINE | Two Lost boys will serve up plenty of Lost Boys as Once Upon a Time opens Season 3 this Sunday at 8/7c. When last we tuned into the ABC drama, Emma, the ‘rents, Rumple, Hook and Regina had set sail for Neverland in search of Henry, who had been whisked into a portal by Tamara and Greg. The action — save for a brief detour to 11 years ago — picks up with the unlikely allies splashing down in Peter Pan’s ‘hood, well wary of what awaits them.
Series cocreators Adam Horowitz and Eddy Kitsis gave TVLine a deep dive into the new season, previewing a collision of egos, overdue family bonding, romantic detours and an overall exploration of character that some feel eluded Season 2.
TVLINE | Do you feel, that if you had any regrets about Season 2, that it was at times quite plot-driven and not as character-driven as you might have liked? Is that anything you were conscious of as you went into Season 3?
ADAM HOROWITZ | We are always conscious of trying to make it character-driven and not plot-driven, and if Season 2 appeared that way to some, that’s certainly something we don’t want to have happen with Season 3. Our intention going into Season 2 was to make it character-driven and to make the plot service the characters, but can we do better? We always try to. With each season, we’ve tried to be ambitious, and I think we’ve succeeded with some things and fallen short with others. We just have to look at the “game tape” of what we’ve done, learn what worked best and build on that.TVLINE | I’m thinking of, for example, Regina. Last year, she seemed to be doing a lot of stuff to service the plot.
EDDY KITSIS | It’s unfortunate then that it came off that way, because what we tried to do was treat “magic and being good” like the metaphor of an alcoholic. So in the first nine episodes, Regina was staying clean for Henry, resulting in her saving Snow White’s life, which is a cold day in hell for her — and then she’s not invited to dinner. And when she is invited to dinner, she looked across the room and realized these people may tolerate her, but they will never forgive her. So when her mom comes with “the bottle,” she takes the short way out. And in the end when she says, “Everyone thinks I’m the Evil Queen; let me die as Regina,” what we were setting up was a person who kept going back and forth and at the end of the day realized they didn’t want to be remembered for something horrible they did. People might have thought she was flip-flopping, but for us it’s like quitting cigarettes —you go on and off until you can finally put it behind you. But in Season 3, she’s going to embrace who she is a lot more.
HOROWITZ | If anything, the challenge for the show has been and continues to be taking the mythology that involves all of these characters — the stuff that kind of comes out as “plot” — and making it digestible in as smooth a way possible through character, through the moments they share and wherein they reveal themselves.
KITSIS | Regina might have been flip-floppy, but she was not one of the ones we thought was “plotty.”
HOROWITZ | We were trying to take a dive with Regina and we think we got her where she needed to be. Maybe the dive was a little splashier than it should have been, but for where we wanted to go, we now are in a position to do some new things with her in Season 3.TVLINE | As Season 3 takes shape, how will it differ from 2 in theme, in tone…?
HOROWOTZ | I’ll say one thing: On the character front, something that you brought up and we’re very conscious of, we are really making the effort to peel back the layers on these characters. That’s one of the reasons we’re embarking on this Neverland story. As you’ll see particularly in the first half of this season, a lot of time is spent in Neverland with the six people on that ship, and what they encounter there and what Neverland itself does to them helps shine a new light on them.TVLINE | What questions or issues are you aiming to raise or explore with this journey?
KITSIS | Neverland, for us, is a place where you don’t grow up, and since you have no future, we feel like Neverland makes you confront your past. There was a certain speed to Season 2, and there were big issues raised that we didn’t catch our breath in enough time to explore — like, Emma questioning why she has magic. And Emma now knows that Mary Margaret and David are her parents, but does she really look at them like parents? And what is it like for them? What does it mean to be a mom as opposed to saying you’re a mom? And Regina was told by Greg Mendel, “You’re a villain, you don’t get a happy ending,” so she wonders if that’s true. We want to take the time to explore these big character things that we set up in Season 2. What I love about Neverland is it’s like you’re in the jungle. It’s magical and yet at the same time dark and sexy.TVLINE | As the six search this land that is foreign to at least some of them, will they be splintered into different “camps” a la Lost’s Jack and Locke? Will there be torn allegiances?
HOROWITZ | There will certainly be hurdles to be cleared in order for them to rescue Henry — if they do in fact manage to rescue Henry. We’ll see different alliances, and we’ll see splits occurring… different permutations of things.
KITSIS | You have six people on the boat who all think they’re a leader. At the end of Season 2, they were all united with, “Let’s go get Henry,” but when they face their first obstacle, you can’t have six leadersTVLINE | Right. Like, if you ask me to choose between Charming, who you know has the right priorities, and Hook, who might have a tactical advantage, I’m in a pickle.
KITSIS | Exactly. And if you’re Regina, who thinks she’s smarter than both of them… [Laughs] For us, that’s the fun.TVLINE | Is Peter Pan someone they will meet right away? And will he quickly live up to the ominous billing Rumple gave him?
KITSIS| We think so, but you know Twitter….
HOROWITZ | We’ll meet Peter Pan rather quickly, and we think that he lives up to Rumple’s warning, which was, “That’s who you need to be afraid of.” And if The Dark One is afraid of someone, you should probably listen to him.TVLINE | What are you going to do with Snow and David amidst all this? I mean, Henry is Emma’s son, he is Regina’s son….
KITSIS | I would say that Emma is their daughter, and in Neverland, a place where there are no parents, they’re going to wonder what that means. And how do you parent a 28-year-old who has the same life experience you do?
HOROWITZ | On a certain storytelling level, what the beginning of this season provides us, that we weren’t able to do in Season 2, is: The family is together. We have the chance to really play these moments of what it means for David and Mary Margaret to come to terms with their daughter Emma, and how being her parents is going to be difficult for Emma and difficult for them. How do they forge this unique familial relationship?
KITSIS | Also, if you remember in the finale Emma wanted to throw the bean and get the hell out of there, and Mary Margaret said, “Let’s do it the hard way” — and the hard way got Henry kidnapped. Last year, David and Mary Margaret were, “We are both.” This year it’s, “We need Snow and Charming,” that’s what this mission requires. In a lot of ways, Mary Margaret may not be able to bond with Emma, but Bandit Snow and Emma have a lot in common. She needs to return the light to her daughter. And in the same respect, David is more a man of action than words, and he realizes that while he barely knows his daughter, he can show her what a hero is.TVLINE | Are there answers to be had on the Home office mystery, as we get to Neverland?
KITSIS | Very quickly. Within the first two acts of the premiere you will see what the Home Office is.TVLINE | And what about Pan’s specific want for Henry? Is that visited early on?
KITSIS | It is teased early on, but that is the mystery of the first 11 [episodes].HOROWITZ | You understand very quickly what Peter Pan is doing and what he’s up to, but what’s really behind it is unfurled as we go along.
TVLINE | Among our characters there in Neverland, what dynamics are you excited to explore?
KITSIS | We’re really excited about all of it. We’re excited to see Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold, who was going off on a suicide mission in the name of doing the right thing, because he believes his son is dead. You’ve got Emma grieving Bae, though of course we know that he’s alive. You’ve got Hook, who realized that revenge is not all it was cracked up to be, so maybe he’s thinking there’s a future for him and Emma. One of the things we’ve loved most is just having the group just be together, on this trek.
TVLINE | What, do they trade zingers along the way?
KITSIS | Oh yeah. And there’s the way they all react differently to things. Obviously, David hates Hook. Regina hates all of them. Snow resents Regina. They all have this baggage and this history that after two years we forgot we built up, but then when you watch Season 3 you see it all come out.
TVLINE | Were you suggesting earlier that there will be time for, if not romance, romantic moments…?
HOROWITZ | Romance plays a big part in this season. We certainly don’t want to undermine the intensity and the importance of the mission to rescue Henry, but we also know that the feelings between many of these characters are going to be hard to deny.
KITSIS | The other thing is that because we are doing the 11/11 split of the season, we really are treating this like its own season. Neverland will be done by 11, and because you know what you’re writing towards, we’re almost treating it like one giant movie. And like any adventure movie, there’s romance, there are tings that terrifying, there are things that are heartbreaking…. That was always our goal, to have that big summer movie feel, where you can be laughing and then frightened all in the same hour.
HOROWITZ | The best kind of roller coaster is the one that goes through all of that stuff.
TVLINE | You told me over the summer, “There is a special someone out there for Regina.” What is she like when crushing on someone — or being crushed on, however it is this scenario shakes out? Or is this not about tepid heat?
HOROWITZ | It’s about destiny and fate. — and with Regina, you can certainly also expect plenty of heat.
TVLINE | After the Season 2 finale, you assuredme there was a plan for Belle and the others back in Storybrooke. What shape has that plan taken?
HOROWITZ | That is an excellent question. Belle’s role in this first half of the season becomes clear very early on, within the first couple episodes — and in a way we think is not expected. How Belle fits into all of this is something we’re really excited to reveal to the audience.
TVLINE | Because Emile de Ravin is still a series regular, right?
HOROWITZ | She is still a series regular, and she is still very much involved in the story.
TVLINE | What can you say about Neal’s story over in Fairytale Land? Is that where your extended need for a Robin Hood (now played by Sean Maguire) comes in?
KITSIS | If you were guessing, that might be a good guess….
HOROWITZ | We pick up Neal right where we left him in the finale, which is with Aurora, Mulan and Philip, and he’s got a big problem, which is he is as far away from his family as he’s ever been. How is he going to get back? He doesn’t know what’s happened. Last thing he knows, Tamara was shooting him in a boiler room!
KITSIS | It was a cannery, to be fair.
TVLINE | What backstory gaps will you be filling in via flashbacks?
KITSIS | The second episode is a Snow/Charming episode, with the Evil Queen — we’re going to be filling in some time from [Snow’s] wake-up to when they met her on the battlefield. How did the queen react to that wake-up? And who told her?
HOROWITZ | Episode 3 is a Tinker Bell origin story….
KITSIS | We’re going to tell a Rumple story, and we’re going to find out how Hook became a pirate. And Episode 6 is called “Ariel” (guest-starring JoAnna Garcia Swisher as The Little Mermaid).
TVLINE | And what can you reveal about Giancarlo Esposito’s return?
KITSIS | We always want him back, and NBC was kind enough to lend him to us. I would say, “If the queen is going to find out that a sleeping curse was broken, who better to deliver the news?”
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
September 27, 2013 at 10:41 am #212438Captain EalaParticipantYES. An all out brawl between Regina and Snow??? BRING IT ON. There’s going to be hair pulling and everything apparently!!! 😀
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September 27, 2013 at 11:01 am #212440PheeParticipantCan’t wait for the Snow and Regina catfight!!
Phee, I concede that you’re most likely correct about Robin Hood being Regina’s future love interest. Robin Hood might have lost his love, Marain. If so, then maybe two lonely hearts could find comfort in one another. The only thing that remains to convince me is the way in Robin Hood is written. If Robin Hood hates magic for destroying his family too much to overlook Regina’s sins, then I can’t see them ever happening. If RH himself feels guilty for using fairy magic to heal Marian, only to have that magic come with a heavy price, he might be more sympathetic to Regina if Regina ever shows true contrition for her past sins.
I’m gonna guess that maybe he’s living in Rumple’s castle so he could search it for a magical something or other, perhaps a way to get to Marian, if she did leave FTL pre-Curse. I gather there’s a comment from someone about there being no magical objects left in the castle, so it sounds like someone’s been looking for one, and has come up empty. If that someone is Robin, then whatever happened with Marian didn’t put him off magic. If the price is that she’s dead, in our world, in present day, then Robin wouldn’t even be aware of the price he’s had to pay, yet.
People in general didn’t know the specifics of what the Curse would do, did they? My brain just went off on a crack tangent where Robin had actually been counting on the Curse to take him to the world where Marian was, (but then he got caught in Cora’s bubble), but I dunno that he could have known that information, so nevermind.
On another note, anyone who thought that Tamara’s-daddy and Regina’s-lover theories couldn’t coexist if Regina killed Tamara, that’s not an issue any more, because we know Regina didn’t kill her.
September 27, 2013 at 11:03 am #212441HappyEndingsSpectatorWhere We Left Off:
• Tamara (Sonequa Martin-Green) and Greg (Ethan Embry), aka the two most annoying villains in the world, wreaked havoc in Storybrooke all towards the end of the second season. From betraying Neal (Michael Raymond-James) with a faux engagement to activating Regina’s (Lana Parilla) self-destruct trigger and just being plain old irritating, these two lovers were determined to do whatever it took to ruin our characters happy endings. In the finale they kidnapped Henry per the instructions of the magic-hating “Home Office” and whisked him away through a portal to the dark world of Neverland.• During his attempt to thwart Tamara and Greg, Neal was shot in the chest and fell through a portal before Emma (Jennifer Morrison) could save her beloved. Everyone was under the impression that Neal died but at the very last minute, we learned that the Dark One’s son landed in the Enchanted Forest with our dear old friends Mulan (Jamie Chung), Aurora (Sarah Bolger) and a newly re-souled Prince Phillip (Julian Morris).
• When the self-destruct jewel was about to blow up Storybrooke, Emma decided to combine her magic with Regina’s and together their powers were enough to stop the mass fatalities in the nick of time. After Henry was kidnapped, Hook (Colin O’Donoghue) allowed Regina, Emma, Snow (Ginnifer Goodwin), and Charming (Josh Dallas) to board the Jolly Roger so they could their quest to rescue Henry. Even Rumplestilskin (Robert Carlyle) joined the search party after he kissed his beautiful Belle (Emilie De Ravin) goodbye and entrusted her with a cloaking spell to protect Storybrooke.
What Lies Ahead:
• In the world of Neverland, imagination runs wild and your biggest fears will haunt you at every turn. Note-To-Self: Don’t ever mess with mermaids. Sure, they may look like gorgeous creatures who will sing you a song about living under the sea, but when you invade their territory they’ll come at you like a pack of piranhas. Prepare yourselves Once fans, because mermaids are just once of the treacherous obstacles that our heroes will face in the premiere.
• Remember the sweet and carefree Peter Pan that we all remember loving as a child? Well this boy is absolutely nothing like that. He’s manipulative, deceitful, dangerous and terrifying. Sure he’s got a sweet smile, but this villain will use his dark charm to mess with your head and steal everything you hold near and dear to your heart. Let’s just put it this way: Rumplestilskin—aka the Dark One—spends the majority of the first two episodes crying.
• Happy Endings. We all want them, but who deserves them? That is just one of the many questions that our heroes and villains will address in these first few episodes back. As of now, Emma does not believe in happy endings and she will constantly knock her parents’ “infuriatingly optimistic” outlook on life. If only Emma knew that there were not one, but two fellas, alive and vying for her affections….
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