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September 24, 2013 at 5:43 pm #211877SlurpeezParticipant
Another spoiler article, this time from The Examiner:
‘Once Upon A Time’ EPs preview Neverland, psychology,& Pan as ultimate villain!?
ABC’s Once Upon A Time is once again starting its season in a strange new world– for its characters as well as its audience. When Henry (Jared Gilmore) was snatched by two real world villains doing the bidding of a secretive “Home Office” in the season finale, his family formed the most unlikely road trip– well, boat trip– and set sail after him to bring him home. The journey will bring all of our beloved characters, from Henry to his mother Emma (Jennifer Morrison) and her parents Snow (Ginnifer Goodwin) and Charming (Josh Dallas) to the slightly more villainous Regina (Lana Parrilla), Rumple (Robert Carlyle), and Hook (Colin O’Donoghue) to Neverland– a world where little boys, led by Peter Pan, never grow up. But none of the characters in Once Upon A Time are exactly what we’d expect them to be from the stories we may have grown up reading or watching, so true to its form, neither is Peter Pan nor the world which he inhabits. Emma may have been a fish out of water stepping into the cursed Storybrooke in season one, but here we have a group of fish out of water trying to navigate a dark and dangerous jungle to ward off Lost Boys and find Henry.”We’ve always wanted to go to Neverland, but we really wanted to focus on the core characters, and we thought because Neverland is a place where you don’t grow up that you have to confront your past. So what we did– our inspiration was the idea that these characters have to return to who they were before the curse in order to kind of achieve this, and at the same time, we wanted to have them dig deeper into what everything means. Last year was such a bullet, and we wanted to have time to reflect on what’s happened and what does it mean,” Eddy Kitsis said during a special Q&A in Los Angeles.
“For Snow and Charming, they realize in this moment that their daughter really doesn’t look to them for parental guidance, and that’s something hard to get, so they’re realizing in a lot of ways they need to earn it. They see Emma thinking like ‘You know, if I took that bean last year and just threw it on the ground and took Henry when I had the chance, none of this would have happened. And maybe good doesn’t work. Maybe being good works in the enchanted forest, but it didn’t work in Portland, and it certainly didn’t work when I grew up.’ And I think that what is hard for the Charmings is that they realize their daughter grew up without hope, and they have to instill it back in her. And how do you do that when your son is kidnapped and you’re in a place that’s making you confront your past? Because she has more in common with the Lost Boys than Snow and Charming.”
The new setting, therefore, especially in the first two episodes of the season, per producers, is really a “prism” through which we will see deep details about all of our core characters. Collectively they are on a very external mission, but individually, they will each have to confront issues about themselves and with each other that threaten to derail their plans and even the best of intentions.
And it’s not just the place itself that is the cause of this but rather its ruler, Peter Pan. In Once Upon A Time’s world Pan is demonized– he is literally called a demon by a character with whom he shares a past. He is an old, angry soul trapped in a forever youthful body, and he manages to strike fear into even some of the biggest villains we have met those far. How he does this is by being a master manipulator of those around him.
“Our characters are all looking for a happy ending; they’re all looking for love. It’s just what choices do you use to get them? Some people are okay playing hardball; some people want to do it the right way. Peter Pan is an interesting story, and I think as it slowly unfolds…he’s a sick, twisted kid…He gets in your head and says ‘Oh what is the thing that you’re most insecure about? I’m going to exploit that!'” Kitsis said.
“Somebody who refuses to grow up has to have a lot of problems because it sounds great when you’re sixteen but when you start to turn twenty-five or older you go ‘Oh God, I would hate to be 16 again!’ or ‘I’m missing out on all of the things of life.’ And he just hit the pause button. This guy is probably there alone, and we started to think about Heart of Darkness, and Peter Pan started to become Kurtz to us, and we started to talk about having to go back up the river to get him.”
Once Upon A Time will explore how Peter Pan became this way, because as executive producer Adam Horowitz pointed out, the show has always explicitly said that “evil isn’t born; it’s made.” Season three will dive into his backstory to get a sense of who he was before, how he came to be who he is now, and what he really wants with Henry
“What we wanted was someone who had a really character-based motivation for why belief was so important to him, and that’s the story we’re going to unfurl,” Kitsis said.
Henry has always been a very special child. He was able to see the truth in a story book he read, and he dragged his birth mother to a strange town to convince her she had a part in not only his life but that entire town’s. The third season premiere of Once Upon A Time gives Henry a brief flashback moment (the first of what producers promise to be at least a few this season with a core one coming in episode nine to show how he got adopted) to see the origins of his specialness, and yes, some of the magic within him comes from his genes. But more of it comes from the fact that he genuinely believes– in magic but also in those around him.
“Henry, as we’ve seen over the years, is a very independent, resourceful boy who has now been thrown into a situation where that will not only be tested, but he’s going to have to deal with not just as we’ve seen before running away but also a psychological test because Pan…is the ultimate manipulator,” Kitsis said.
“The thing that makes Henry so great is his belief. He believed enough to get on a bus, to go to Boston, to meet this woman who gave him up for adoption in a prison in Phoenix to come back because Snow White and Charming needed to remember who they were. And it worked. It worked. But this is a world where that belief is going to be used against him…[it’s] really kind of the theme of this season so far, and we’re seeing how belief impacts all of our characters. Neverland runs on belief.”
Once Upon a Time returns to ABC on September 29 2013 at 8 p.m.
[adrotate group="5"]"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
September 24, 2013 at 5:56 pm #211879SlurpeezParticipantTV Line –Once Upon a Time spoilers!
TVLine took a trip to Neverland (or at least Burbank) to screen the first two episodes of Once Upon a Time Season 3 (premiering Sunday at 8/7c), and we came back with a treasure chest of teasers.
Read on for the scoop on Captain Swan, Peter Pan’s introduction, angry mermaids and much more.
• The season premiere opens with a flashback to 11 years ago, during which Emma faces an emotionally conflicting moment that showcases some of Jennifer Morrison’s best work on the series.
• As we told you, Greg and Tamara really should have asked the Home Office more questions about their mission.
• Believing that Neal is dead, Emma and Hook — who notes that he spent quite some time with Baelfire — drink to their fallen friend/loved one. While this scene is touching, there’s plenty of flirty ones between them, too, thanks to Hook, who seems to be winning over more than one member of the Charming family.
• Mermaids are mean! And liars! So basically, they’re fishy mean girls.
• Even meaner than the creatures from the ocean? Peter Pan! Hook sums it up perfectly when he says, “He’s a bloody demon.” And yes, viewers will meet Pan rather soon into the return. All we’ll say is the actor behind the villainous new character nailed it.
• Regina is forced to work with Emma, Snow, Charming and Hook to get back Henry, which provides for some fantastic one-liners.
• While Storybrooke isn’t seen in the first two episodes, you’ll still get a glimpse of that world through Rumple’s personal crisis.
• There are five people on the Jolly Roger: Emma, Snow, Charming, Regina and Hook. Four out of those five throw punches at one another in the season opener.
• The Oct. 6 hour will feature flashbacks to the Enchanted Forest shortly after Charming woke up Snow from her sleeping curse. The Evil Queen — sporting some spectacular couture — presents them with an offer that forces Snow to accept who she really is, while Emma is facing the same challenge in the present. Be warned: There will be tears.
• For those puzzled by Rumple’s (or is it Mr. Gold’s?) appearance in this clip, his “half-and-half” look will be explained.
• Another realm gets name-checked in the second episode, and no, it’s not Wonderland.
• Some real-life fairytale films get hilariously referenced, prompting one person to ask, “What’s a movie?”
• Henry + pixie dust = weeee!
• It’s all about belief. And in Neverland, not having an imagination may be your greatest downfall.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
September 24, 2013 at 6:02 pm #211881HappyEndingsSpectatorThe Evil Queen — sporting some spectacular couture — presents them with an offer that forces Snow to accept who she really is, while Emma is facing the same challenge in the present. Be warned: There will be tears.
I don’t know what this is about.
But can’t wait for the one lines with Hook and Regina 🙂
Next Realm will be ——-OZ
Tinkerbell helps Henry I believe.
September 24, 2013 at 6:07 pm #211882angiebelleParticipantMan, every time I think it couldn’t possibly sound any better- it does! I am just over the moon for season 3! It sounds as if it’s going to have everything that S2 lacked- and I say this as someone who still found plenty to like about S2.
It might sound insignificant and silly, but I am thrilled to pieces that they are finally going to directly reference the Disney films! I’ve been waiting ages for moments like that- particularly with Hook being so different from how he is usually depicted! The show has made references to storybooks and the fact that these stories exist in our world, but they have yet to actually mention the Disney versions which is how most of our world was introduced to them.
I’m not expecting to see Belle much if at all in the season premiere…but that’s all right- we know she has some great stuff coming.
September 24, 2013 at 6:09 pm #211883SlurpeezParticipantAnd it’s not just the place itself that is the cause of this but rather its ruler, Peter Pan. In Once Upon A Time‘s world Pan is demonized– he is literally called a demon by a character with whom he shares a past. He is an old, angry soul trapped in a forever youthful body, and he manages to strike fear into even some of the biggest villains we have met those far. How he does this is by being a master manipulator of those around him.
“Our characters are all looking for a happy ending; they’re all looking for love. It’s just what choices do you use to get them? Some people are okay playing hardball; some people want to do it the right way. Peter Pan is an interesting story, and I think as it slowly unfolds…he’s a sick, twisted kid…He gets in your head and says ‘Oh what is the thing that you’re most insecure about? I’m going to exploit that!'” Kitsis said.
“Somebody who refuses to grow up has to have a lot of problems because it sounds great when you’re sixteen but when you start to turn twenty-five or older you go ‘Oh God, I would hate to be 16 again!’ or ‘I’m missing out on all of the things of life.’ And he just hit the pause button. This guy is probably there alone, and we started to think about Heart of Darkness, and Peter Pan started to become Kurtz to us, and we started to talk about having to go back up the river to get him.”
FREAKY!I I can’t wait to meet Peter Pan!
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
September 24, 2013 at 6:10 pm #211884RumplesGirlKeymasterBrace yourself RG!
*is reduced to crying hysterically and hugging a teddy bear* THAT’S MY OTP. NOTHING WILL STOP THEM.
More Spoilers! @ RG – could you make this a general spoiler folder instead by changing the title please?
Ask and thou shalt receive. I am like Santa.
“sick, twisted kid” to use Kitsis’ words.
LOVE THIS. YES. Bring on twisted Pan.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"September 24, 2013 at 6:11 pm #211885RumplesGirlKeymasterHOLY INCOMING EVERYTHING. CAN’T READ FAST ENOUGH.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"September 24, 2013 at 6:12 pm #211886SlurpeezParticipantHOLY INCOMING EVERYTHING. CAN’T READ FAST ENOUGH.
Information overload!
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
September 24, 2013 at 6:13 pm #211888HappyEndingsSpectatorHe ends up in a few locations we’ve seen before on the show, including a potentially surprising one. See I knew Neal was somewhere else.
September 24, 2013 at 6:14 pm #211889SlurpeezParticipantIncluding Emma, who softens (a bit) to Hook’s charms. Although Horowitz is quick to caution that it won’t be smooth sailing for that particular ‘ship. “The whole ‘ship thing is an awesome thing fans bring to the experience of watching a show, but the story we’re telling encompasses the relationships between all the characters — and the bigger emotional story as well.” Although Kitsis adds, “They think Neal’s dead, and Hook is a man who obviously likes ladies. And as we saw last year when they climbed the beanstalk, Emma has captured his heart a little bit, but Neal is fighting like hell to get a second chance with her … although Emma is focused on Henry [and] her heart has been broken too many times to worry about dating right now. But we’ll see, she’s got two handsome guys!”
Crying! My feelings!
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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