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October 3, 2016 at 8:45 am #328159PheeParticipant
That’s the second ep where I actually enjoyed a good chunk of it. And this time it was a Hook moment that was one of my highlights. Who am I and what have I done with the real me?! LOL
Hook’s sincere apology, and self awareness that he’s really NOT actually a redeemed hero just yet was quite surprising and greatly appreciated! I felt like Belle’s side of the conversation let the scene down a bit though, because it came off like she was already kinda like “bygones” as far as the attempted murder.
The flirting between Rumple and EQ was really quite squicky. But Bobby and Lana both nailed the delivery of the lines. So I’m a bit unsure how I feel about that whole hot mess. I can almost rationalise EQ coming onto him in SB, because without the Regina side in her any more, EQ just has ZERO chill, there’s no conscience whatsoever to hold her back from saying or doing anything innapropriate. Rumple being all up on her in the flashback was quite unsettling, given the almost paternal relationship they’ve set up, and the fact that he also lusted after her mother. *shudder*
Bobby was having so much fun in those flashback scenes, and was a delight! I’m not in the camp who thinks the show is ending this season, but I do think Rumple will die. Bobby could still sign on to come back now and again for flashbacks, and that way he’d get to play the version of the character that he quite clearly revels in playing.
Please keep Archie in every ep, I didn’t even realise how much I’ve missed him. <3
The guy who played the Count, he was great. Maybe the best single ep guest star they’ve ever had? He engaged me in the flashbacks, so they were more than just an *insert yet another time EQ tried to kill Snow and Charming* bit that would typically feel totally shoehorned in. And in the present day he actually kicked me square in the feels in the scene where he’d been fighting Snowing and saying that he didn’t want it to be this way, but he couldn’t help it. I actually felt some desperation from him and felt sorry for him, so well played, whatever that actor’s name was.
The CGI rendered rooms seemed to be done slightly better? But whenever there was a shot that had both Regina and EQ in and they were facing each other, the eyelines were just a little bit off and it took me out of the moment, which is a shame because Lana was nailing every line in this ep.
WHAT were those shoes that Regina was wearing though? Just…do we really think that Regina Mills would be seen dead in those horrible shoes? And what even with Emma’s wardrobe…was that white top supposed to be referencing swan wings or something?
EQ sing-songing like Rumple the “Tear yourselves apart”….I’m living for this!
That was the best moment of the ep for me. Lana’s delivery was perfection and made me chuckle.
Snow and Charming were wandering around with their weapons for no reason last episode, but were conveniently unarmed when the Count attacked them.
OMG you’re so right. *facepalm*
[adrotate group="5"]October 3, 2016 at 8:49 am #328160RumplesGirlKeymasterThe CGI rendered rooms seemed to be done slightly better?
The Count’s ballroom was surprisingly pretty. Normally scenes like that scream “green screen!” with its poor rendering.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 3, 2016 at 10:44 am #328166MattParticipantI felt that this episode was miles ahead of last week. It was narratively cohesive and generally more polished. I do feel that last week was very much “let’s just speed through the crap and try to get to a better starting point for what we want this season to be”. They couldn’t drop threads from last season, but equally they seemed to want to try and make everything happen at lightning speed which, as Zelena alluded to, is very unusual.
Liked:
• Evil Queen: Sword fighting, flirting with Rumple, evil plans and great line delivery. I hadn’t realised just how much I missed this character and I am sad that she most likely won’t be around again after the first run of episodes. It is a great shame that the show doesn’t have more (what I would call) “Legacy” characters to play with (Evil Queen, Rumple, Snow). I’m really disappointed with how they handled Merlin, who could have been a really strong character that was worked in behind-the-scenes of everything and who had a lot more knowledge about the rules of the Once universe and perhaps someone who could open doors to places we didn’t even know about. The universe could have been a whole lot richer than it is and it feels like in recent years it has just been diluted.
• Belle wasn’t too annoying.
• The David father reveal wasn’t quite as predictable as we were anticipating, which was nice. I’m intrigued to know what is going on there.
• I loved the fact that the Evil Queen clearly has some insight into secrets that are being kept and stories with the core characters that they don’t want to be played out. I hadn’t even thought of this possibility and it raises the stakes more than just having throwaway characters with secrets.
• Probably a lot more but I need to rewatch first!Mixed:
• Some of the Regina/Evil Queen compositing was done well, but the scene in the woods was really bad. Why is it that Orphan Black is able to pull this off so well but Once can’t?
• Did Regina and Zelena’s sisterly bonding literally consist of having ONE appletini each? And couldn’t they magically clear up after themselves?Disliked:
• As everyone else has pointed out, this season has the feel that it is going to be tying up loose ends and so I will be sad if it ends. I have no idea where they could go from this season though (not that that has stopped them before). I feel as though the fact that ABC may have been wavering about the show over the years means that they have had to keep veering towards wrapping up, and then pulling it back, over and over again.October 3, 2016 at 10:47 am #328167thedarkonedearieParticipantOverall: 6.5/10
This was a slight tick down for me from the premiere but there were some good moments and not so good moments. Some great character moments with Regina and the EQ, the Charmings and Regina, Emma and Archie, but this episode for me, was bogged down with lack luster flashbacks. But everything in present-day storybrooke for the most part was pretty great. But with no Mr. Hyde, this was all about the EQ. I just hope they both can work together or something. I’d rather that then see Zelena relapse.
Liked:
– Everything that is the EQ. Lana Parrilla is eating it up. Her costumes were great, her sing songy thing with Regina and the Charmings. Her interaction with Zelena and then Henry. All great. Even the awkward scene with Rumple was incredibly well acted by both Lana and Robert.
– Hook apologizing to Belle. It was sincere. But if I’m Belle, I’m not sure I’d want to stay in the underbelly’s of a ship belonging to a man who tricked me, and tried to kill me who’s also a rival of my current husband, and likely staying in one of Milah’s pirate sex slave dungeons.
– I like the idea of everyone having some secrets that need to be panned out and that the EQ is just going to watch them eat each other.
– Ok, who killed Charming’s father. My bet is on Jafar or Rumple. But this is already making David interesting again.
Mixed:
– I love Archie being back but I feel like Emma really needs to at least tell her parents about what she saw. I get she thinks it’s Regina behind the cloak so fine, don’t tell her. But tell your parents. Tell Hook.
– EQ seducing Rumple. Well acted and creepy as all hell, but the EQ never had that kind of relationship with Rumple so I reject the notion that she would do that.
– Rumple has a key to another land? Man, portals just are so easy now. It’s just frustrating when for 3 seasons you make it out to be this impossibly challenging thing to do and now it looks so easy.
– As much as I’d like to see EQ and Zelena team up, Zelena has come too far to revert back to her old ways. I sincerely hope she’s just playing with the EQ to get her to trust her only to help Regina defeat her in the end.
– The fight with the Count was good. And something about Regina fighting in her mayor attire with a sword just was fun to watch. Her putting her life on the line to save her family. She has come a long way. But please, don’t give me this “taste of darkness” bull again. She had to kill the Count. She had no choice. If this somehow spirals her down the path of Evil, I’m going to hurl.
Disliked:
– The handmaiden? Really? I couldn’t help myself from laughing uncontrollably at the screen. Like that was so bad for so many reasons.
– The Count’s flashbacks. It’s basically a rehashing of the hunter (graham). EQ hires someone to kill Snow White. They can’t go through with it. Flashbacks were pretty lame.
– The most underrated character on the show wasn’t in tonight’s episode. Mr. Hyde takes over Storybrooke for one half episode, and then gets thrown into lock up. I really hope this isn’t going to be like Arthur who starts out promising and then gets tossed aside until they are ready to kill him off. I’m hoping he has a much bigger connection to Jafar. He did know about the Oracle and to follow the red bird so if the Oracle is in fact Jafar, then Mr. Hyde knows more than he’s letting on.
October 3, 2016 at 10:49 am #328168thedarkonedearieParticipantThe Count’s ballroom was surprisingly pretty. Normally scenes like that scream “green screen!” with its poor rendering.
I too was very impressed with the ballroom. For a second, I didn’t think it was CGI.
October 3, 2016 at 11:13 pm #328211WickedRegalParticipantThe Emmy’s are Faving all the tweets about Lana Parrilla deserving an Emmy Award! 😉
I see @TheEmmys faving those tweets… @LanaParrilla better win several Emmy awards for her acting on 6×02 of #OnceUponATime pic.twitter.com/Tfz12UkQfg
— gabbi 🦋 (@sunamorim) October 4, 2016
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October 5, 2016 at 12:24 am #328241ry4christParticipantPretty solid episode for me. I like the mystery elements they’re putting into place. I’d give it a B.
Liked:
– Lana Parilla continues to amaze after 6 seasons. I really hope she gets an Emmy at some point.
– I love Rumple/Gold best as the twisted imp. I also hope Robert gets his much deserved Emmy.
– I’m intrigued by Charming’s dad mystery. I appreciate they are revisiting something from two seasons ago (exactly actually – 4×02 and 6×02).Mixed:
– I really enjoyed the actor who played the Count and his story – although it ironically made me want to know more about his story so it still feels somewhat untold. That’s probably because I’m not familiar with the original story though.
– Zelena’s insecurity and temptation to embrace EQ does fit her character, but shouldn’t the fact Regina sealed her vault with blood magic show Zelena that Regina at least has some faith in her still?Disliked:
– Why are Snow and Charming randomly out and about in Storybrooke when they know someone out there is looking to kill them? Couldn’t they at least have been trying to hide?
– Emma still not telling her family what’s going on. It feels so Season 1 Emma. You would think going to Hell and back would cause some character development.
– Emma not being sure if she can trust Regina as revealed in the final scene. I really don’t want this to play out as Emma not trusting Regina and then Regina is angry and hurt and does something she regrets. We’ve already been there.October 5, 2016 at 12:59 am #328242Jiminy’s JournalParticipantI actually LOVED this episode. Particularly the way they depicted Agrabah Vipor venom (A slow and painful death), unlike in “Siege Perilous.”
It’s easier to just list what I didn’t like:
The ending of the flashback. Why couldn’t Rumpel have just made a deal with the count? for example, if the Charmings die, Charlotte dies.
Golden Queen, do not want.
Archie probably should not have given Bashful’s name. Though, I’m surprised it wasn’t Grumpy, this time.
Protection spell? Yeah, that was Belle in 3A. Regina cast a cloaking spell. There was also the “bad things happen” thing.October 5, 2016 at 6:34 pm #328278PriceofMagicParticipantHook apologised to Belle- that was the highlight of the episode for me.
FTL Rumple seemed a little drunk- does anyone else think this or is it just me.
Henry continues to irritate- I think they should kill him off and that can be the thing that unites the family in grief. Henry is the weakest link on this show.
So Snowing comes across an injured villager in a burned down village and their response is to offer him the chance to be a servant for them?
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixOctober 5, 2016 at 6:40 pm #328297RumplesGirlKeymasterSo Snowing comes across an injured villager in a burned down village and their response is to offer him the chance to be a servant for them?
HAHAHAHHAHA!
I never even thought of it that way.
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