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What were your favorite and least favorite moments and dialogue from 6×09 “CHANGELINGS”?? I am really enjoying this season … Are you?
WHOOPS … forgot that this week is CMA and no ONCE …. BUMMER
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.[adrotate group="5"]GENERAL: What a frustrating episode. This season is going in circles and I’m tired of logic problems, things popping into existence as quick fixes that weren’t thought of several episodes ago. I’m tired of character motivation being vague at best and insulting to the audience at worst. I’m tired of the writers retconning past experiences and character growth because it suits their current season. And I’m really tired of poor world building that only leads to endless questions about how this universe functions when the writers clearly have no intention of answering them!
RATING: 6/10
LIKED
–“Wingless glow worms.”
–Squid ink. *Drink!*
–“I cannot lose another son, Belle.” See, that motivation makes sense. Baelfire should absolutely be informing ALL of Rumple’s deeds over the past few years–it’s the only way Nealfire’s death could truly resonate. But instead the writers just go with “dark magic is addictive!” and “Rumple’s gonna Rumple!”
–Baby Gideon is not named after someone who died!
MIXED
–So fate really does exist for everyone? It’s a literal thing that can be cut, modified, changed, and un-fated? But what if you’re not magical or what if you’re fated to just leave a normal, every day life? Do peasants have lines like this? Can they be cut by the shears?
–So Regina’s heart controls the Evil Queen? And she hasn’t put this into practice until this very moment? Like she didn’t bother to use this trick when the EQ was threatening Snowing?? Or literally at any point during these first 8 episodes??
–Aladdin is now the Genie. Okay, sure. Whatever. I’m sure if I cared about Aladdin that’d matter to me.
DISLIKED
–I think the CGI for the Dark Castle gets worse every year. I swear you can see Belle’s outline.
–When do the flashbacks take place? And how can I believe that Belle ever fell for Rumple when she literally watches him use an innocent infant for his own devices?
–The inconsistencies in Belle’s character are utterly frustrating. In the span of 5 mins she said she’d “never go back” to Rumple and then moments later, trapped in the elevator, she said that if Rumple “did this, you’ll lose me forever” as if she hadn’t already declared that she’d never return to him!
–Dear writers: What you’re writing with Rumbelle is not “normal romantic angst.” It’s romanticizing mental and emotional abuse and normalizing it to the extent that those in these types of relationships will think “this is how it’s supposed to go.”
–Blue can pop into Rumple’s Dark Castle and free Belle…but she couldn’t free Belle from Regina’s prison…?
–Of course the Black Fairy is Rumple’s mother. It’s never been hinted at, he had no reaction to the mention of the Black Fairy back in S3, but OF COURSE she’s his mother! This is total fan service because everyone keeps pestering the writers about Rumple’s mother. It doesn’t matter to the plot at large, it doesn’t matter to Rumple’s character because it’s never been hinted at after SIX years, it doesn’t matter except as shock value and make the audience stop asking those annoying questions during Hot Seats.
–“I would never hurt you, Belle. Never” Writers, read this and understand it: not all abuse is physical! Get this through your heads already. Rumple HAS hurt Belle. A lot! More than anyone–Regina, Moe, ect–ever have!
–I’m really excited to not see JMo fake shake anymore.
FRUSTRATIONS
I’ll get into this a lot next week during our mid-season review: but what is the POINT of this half-season?? Is there one? There are three stories running concurrently and none of them are moving anywhere or had any point! Jekyll/Hyde and the Land of Untold Stories ended as soon as J/H died; the EQ has done nothing except waltz around and deliver one liners/mack on Rumple; Emma’s Savior story–that incorporates Aladdin and Jasmine–is at an utter standstill with nothing being fleshed out or developed. There are good things in this season but overall this doesn’t feel like there was any sort of point except to get to the Winter Finale next week.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Rating: 6.5/10
It had some slow moments, but was neat overall.
Like:
Snow encouraging Jasmine to be a hero.
Flashback with Belle and the baby.
Belle managing to talk some sense in to Rumple…even if it only did last a while.
WickedSisters Scene. Not the content, but the acting quality Bex and Lana gave.
We finally meet the Black Fairy! And she’s Rumple’s mother! So Rumple is half fairy?!
Belle’s birthing scene was heart wrenching in a way.
Mix:
So…how could Belle’s mother know Fairy Language?
I love Regina…I really do. But to deny Zelena a chance to earn some form of forgiveness is a bit hypocritical when she’s done equally terrible things as her sister.
Dislike:
Continuity error….No dark magic is supposed to have any affect on Zelena….and she was already said to be the more powerful sister dark magic wise, so how did EQ manage to get a hit on her when only light magic can harm her?
Rumple and the Rumbelle Ship sinks even further.
Why the heck is Zelena so powerless and weak now?!
I hate how they reduced the EQ once grand Storyline into that of a “scorned sociopathic ex”.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
Wow … the BLACK FAIRY is RUMPLE’S MOM …. No wonder he hates fairies …
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WHAT is to say cutting the fate with the shears is not what cause’s Rumple’s son to hate him….. never know about fate….
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NOT caring about Aladdin & Jasmaine story line ….8:50
New mission for RUMPLE … LONG GAME …..
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EVIL QUEEN … at the bottom of a lot of wrong.
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EMMA’S story is progressing …. about time
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LOVED THE ENTIRE SHOW
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.My expectations were not high but I was hopeful, unfortunately the episode was everything I actually expected a 6/10
Liked:
At least the Rumple and EQ relationship is over
I did appreciate that Emma and Hook were trying to help Belle
I liked how Belle came up with the name Gideon, it is very in character for her (only thing this season)
At least Rumple did not actually speed up the pregnancy, but why did he at least attempt to tell Belle?
Mixed:
Rumple actually saying that he was afraid that no one could ever love him, although this would have been the perfect opportunity for Belle to point out that Bae did love him, that she loved him.
Belle giving the baby to Blue. Does she not know the history of Rumple and the fairies? Has he never had a conversation with her about why he hates Blue? I can’t believe that they have been in a relationship where he has searched for his son, found him, and then lost him to death and never mentioned the story of how he lost Bae in the first place to Belle. If he did, Wow Belle nothing like giving your and Rumple’s son over to the person he feels is partially responsible for the loss of his first son. Next why doesn’t she work with Zelena and live with Hook (Oh wait, she did this season)
Disliked:
I really don’t care about Jasmine and Aladdin story line
Emma’s visions are kinda of boring and over dramatic
Regina can not forgive Zelena for Robin’s death but she can “pity” her.
The Blue Fairy can break into the dark castle and free Belle and then just leaves her to deal with the situation, that does not make any sense. If Blue is so concerned why did she leave? I still think she is Shady and I hate her outfit
Belle, make up your mind! I will never take you back then in the next moment if you do this you will loose me forever.
Does Belle truly believe that Rumple would hurt her and her son, apparently so which is what makes me so angry. THIS is what the writers have done to this ship. They took a couple who completely loved each other and would never hurt each other and completely tore them apart. Both Rumple and Belle have spent all season hurting each other emotionally and verbally which is just sad.
Belle, make up your mind! I will never take you back then in the next moment if you do this you will loose me forever.
Does Belle truly believe that Rumple would hurt her and her son, apparently so which is what makes me so angry. THIS is what the writers have done to this ship. They took a couple who completely loved each other and would never hurt each other and completely tore them apart. Both Rumple and Belle have spent all season hurting each other emotionally and verbally which is just sad.
This is exactly how I feel. I’m so tired of the same pattern repeating from Belle. She’s been changing her mind every five minutes since season 4 and jerking Rumple around so much I (almost) don’t blame him for going darker. At the same time, I’m not really thrilled about Rumple either because his character has been swinging back and forth so much in this season that I really thought (though I assume this theory is now busted?) that he was either split into good/evil Rumples or was someone else (like Morpheus) in disguise. Can we please just have some consistency?
Liked:
Rumple’s mom being the Black Fairy. It’s been a pet theory of mine (and I’m sure others as well) for some time that Rumple’s mom was a fairy and that was somehow tied in with why he hated fairies (not that Blue wasn’t reason enough).
Mixed:
Aladdin becoming the genie wasn’t something I expected, but it’s a nice twist I guess. The only problem is I don’t care much about him, her or their story at this point.
Disliked:
No need to go further into Rumple and Belle’s relationship, but it pretty much belongs down here.
Zelena suddenly being so easy to beat in a witch fight.
Hook & Emma ‘protecting’ Belle from Rumple, while basically using her as a way to try and find out about Emma’s problems.
Belle giving her son to BLUE of all people to raise. How does she know that sending her son away to live with the fairies (or whoever Blue dumps him off on) isn’t exactly what makes him such a jerk? …I”m still holding out hope that ‘Morpheus’ person isn’t their son, but even if it’s true how is all this supposed to help him?
Belle’s accelerated-pregnancy stretchy sounds made me cringe.
Why, oh why wasn’t the confrontation between Rumpel and the Black Fairy done as the “guess my name” scene from the fairy tale? Though it’s cool that Belle is playing that game with Rumpel.
I guess Rumpel will end up in genie cuffs by the end of this season.
Gideon distributes magic books! Just like the Gideons in the real world!
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I guess Rumpel will end up in genie cuffs by the end of this season.
Interesting. Don’t think anyone has hypothesized that one.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"So I guess I’m in he minority about this one but I enjoyed this overall. I really wanted the black fairy to not be a one time thing where an actress comes in and does a one episode stint. Don’t think we will get that. And I wanted black fairy to be blue fairy but what they gave me instead was quite surprising and I loved it.
Overall: 8/10
Liked:
– BLACK FAIRY! The actress did a great job and for once, I was utterly shocked at the reveal. I don’t see any problem with this reveal at all. It doesn’t even feel like a fan service thing to me. They established this character in season 3A and gave a pretty random name drop. And now, she’s his mother. Sure, fans wanted to hear about Black Fairy but the writers wouldn’t have name dropped her back then like that if they never planned on getting to her at some point. Maybe she wasn’t supposed to be Rumple’s mother in the beginning but we have no way of knowing that. Cut the writers a break. They surprised everyone.
– It makes sense that his mother stole babies. It makes sense why Rumple did. Could be because he wanted to summon her the whole time or because like mother like son. So Rumple knew his mother was the black fairy but she didn’t know. How did he find out? I’m sure we will get that story at some point. So is Black Fairy going to be an antagonist and the villain in the back half instead of Jafar? Has she been pulling the strings all this time with the Oracle and what not? What’s her end game? Or is she just a one time character? Did she have something to do with Agrabah being destroyed or whatever?
– Belle reading to the child. It was sweet and shows she would be a great mom.
– I like that blue took the child away. Belle is giving the child his best chance. Now where did Blue take the child? Is that where Black Fairy could be?
– I like that Rumple did not speed up the pregnancy but EQ did. Rumple actually did the right thing here and yet he still gets burned. I imagine that once Belle finds out it was EQ who did it and not Rumple, and then maybe Rumple kills EQ to save Belle or whatever, they will try and mend this ship. Otherwise they would have just had Rumple do it.
– I like that she named him Gideon. Not named after anybody, finally.
– I actually liked that Regina hasn’t forgiven Zelena yet. Sure, she did save everybody in the end, but her stupidity cost Regina the love of her life. Regina would sacrifice herself for her, and she still loves her, but she has not forgiven her and I think that works. And as far as why Regina hadn’t used her heart to control the EQ until now….well I think she only started accepting that she may have to kill herself in order to save everyone from the EQ in the last couple episodes. She may have known about it, but she has said multiple times to Emma very recently that she would be willing to crush her own heart to save Henry. The scene with Zelena showed she wasn’t bluffing.
– EQ’s final line in Gold’s shop about fairies being good mothers….oh man, drop the mic. So does that mean Regina knew who Rumple’s mother was this whole time too? Did Belle know this whole time?
Mixed:
– The flashbacks were only there to get us to the Black Fairy reveal. Which is fine, but makes the rest of it pointless.
– I understand the complaint regarding the lack of point to this arc this season. But It is not bothering me like it’s bothering others. What’s EQ’s plan? Well she sort of already accomplished it. It was to make Snow and Charming miserable. She did that with the curse. The she tried to trap Regina and Emma in the mirror world but that failed. The she tried to get on Rumple’s good side for help but that has backfired. My guess is she will have some hand in what happens to everyone in the winter finale and where they end up and what’s rumored etc so I don’t quite get why people don’t see the point of her showing up and her motivation. And the Rumbelle story line has been going on this season with the son and their toxic relationship which finally led to Belle’s birth and the reveal of Rumple’s mother. And then you have the overarching story of Emma’s dream and death destiny as a Savior (just like the author of the storybook in season 4). Now introducing Aladdin and Jasmine this early makes less sense to me but we all know it was to get fans interested and to get the lamp for the winter finale. And now we have Jafar and Black Fairy lurking as potential evil villains for the back half and the EQ is still around too. So I really don’t understand the problem people are having with the direction of this season. You also have to remember this is not supposed to be a half season type thing. It’s supposed to be like season 1 and 2. It’s not supposed to be this neat and tidy 10 episode arc and then a reset. It’s supposed to flow like an entire season and so far I think they have done that.
Disliked:
– CGI looked bad in the castle.
– Zelena can’t fight the EQ all of a sudden? I get that Hyde wasn’t affected by magic but perhaps a little fight Zelena? She’s supposed to be so powerful and yet she just gets steam-rolled into a barn.
GENERAL: What a frustrating episode. This season is going in circles and I’m tired of logic problems, things popping into existence as quick fixes that weren’t thought of several episodes ago. I’m tired of character motivation being vague at best and insulting to the audience at worst. I’m tired of the writers retconning past experiences and character growth because it suits their current season. And I’m really tired of poor world building that only leads to endless questions about how this universe functions when the writers clearly have no intention of answering them!
So I didn’t get or feel any of this? Can you explain what was retconned? What character motivation was vague? Poor world building? What popped up as a quick fix? How is this season going in circles? As I said above, I think there are very clear arcs and directions this season and I don’t quite get what people are frustrated about. Again, the EQ wanted revenge on Snow and Charming. She got that. She wanted Henry to choose her. She failed, so far. She wanted to side with Gold and get his help. She was successful and then now has failed. She wanted Zelena to choose her over Regina. She sort of got that until now bc Gold backfired and made her try and kill Zelena. Rumple and Belle have gone back and forth the whole season regarding the child and how Rumple wants to change his fate so he would not hate him. And this episode was the climax of that with Rumple ultimately not choosing to do that to Belle but Belle still giving birth bc of the EQ. So what exactly is going in circles here? I have loved this season and will defend it haha.
I’ll get into this a lot next week during our mid-season review: but what is the POINT of this half-season?? Is there one? There are three stories running concurrently and none of them are moving anywhere or had any point! Jekyll/Hyde and the Land of Untold Stories ended as soon as J/H died; the EQ has done nothing except waltz around and deliver one liners/mack on Rumple; Emma’s Savior story–that incorporates Aladdin and Jasmine–is at an utter standstill with nothing being fleshed out or developed. There are good things in this season but overall this doesn’t feel like there was any sort of point except to get to the Winter Finale next week.
Again, I just disagree based on what I said above. I think you are forgetting some of the story lines that did flesh out this season. The two things you can say had zero point were the land of untold stories and bringing in Jasmine and Aladdin so early. But they needed the land of untold stories to get to Hyde to get to the EQ to get to the curse she put on Snowing and potentially whatever happens in the winter finale. And now they needed the lamp and Aladdin to become the genie to get to the finale but other than those two things, I see a very coherent story line. Apparently no one else does. And then again, they have the over-arching story line with Emma and her dream. Again, I don’t see why people are having a problem with this season at all.
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