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I was under the impression that HENRY figured out EQ was masquerading as REGINA
Yes, because of a throw away line about his posture. Not because of the way she was acting.
Yes, this annoyed me. EQ as Regina was very different to Regina-Regina, even before this stop-slouching line. I would have thought it was pretty obvious, but Snow? Charming? didn’t notice the difference, either. Maybe its the Charming in him that made him slow to realize that she is the EQ haha
I do not think it was the one line .. that line might have been what nailed it … I think it was the whole Prince speech (not REGINA’S parenting style) that clued Henry in … but it would have been dumb of him to let EQ know he figured it out.
[adrotate group="5"]Good with flaws.
Overall: 7/10
Liked:
– Dragon is Lily’s daughter…..we might actually see that storyline pan out
– Kudos for bringing back something I forgot from season 3. Rumple can’t really harm Zelena. I like that they didn’t forget about that even though I did.
– A Henry episode. I thought Jared Gilmore actually did a very good job all around.
– The montage of Snow and Charming. Real life everyday moments are soooooo needed on this show. Like Snow and Charming going about their lives together, but apart. And also Henry and Violet’s relationship.
– The mirror world looked cool. It was cool we got to see it.
– Rumple and EQ are so good on screen together. Delicisously evil. I wonder if EQ will kill Zelena. My guess is Regina will save her and then she will know which sister she truly needs.
Mixed:
– Dragon CGI, ehhh.
– Putting a mirror back together is the solution to get out? Huh?
– I too was confused why Emma and Regina couldn’t communicate with Henry through the mirror bc Regina could do it with Sydney. But once the EQ adjusted the mirror so that Henry could see and hear what was going on, it makes sense that Regina did that with Sydney as well.
– So Belle wanted Zelena to use the sorcerer’s wand to transport her to another world away from Rumple? Away from her family and friends? I realize they just needed to get Aladdin in the shop to steal the lamp but still. So, Jafar is in the lamp right? Which would actually make me annoyed bc then all the stuff with the Oracle girl wasn’t shady cryptic writing but instead just bad writing. My new theory: Jafar is in the lamp but Iago has been posing as the Oracle girl on behalf of Jafar.
– So Belle and Rumple…..this whole thing is getting dangerous. Like, this is ACTUAL STRAIGHT UP ABUSE and for a family show, I’m shocked. And with the live action remake of Beauty and the Beast coming out soon, I’m blown away that ABC would let the writers tear this ship apart. But it’s not even a breakup. It’s truly horrifying. I like Rumple as a bad villain so I’m fine with all of this, but they better be cutting ties with this relationship permanently.
Disliked:
– Hook was pretty useless this episode.
– Emma is basically writing herself off. If she says “death sentence” one more time…sheesh.
– How did Snow know the EQ was watching them through the mirror?
– I think it’s so stupid that Granny’s is also a casual dining restaurant at night. Like they really don’t have another set they can use? It’s dumb.
– So does Snow not teach anymore? But there are school dances?
Good with flaws. Overall: 7/10 Liked: – Dragon is Lily’s daughter…..we might actually see that storyline pan out – Kudos for bringing back something I forgot from season 3. Rumple can’t really harm Zelena. I like that they didn’t forget about that even though I did. – A Henry episode. I thought Jared Gilmore actually did a very good job all around. – The montage of Snow and Charming. Real life everyday moments are soooooo needed on this show. Like Snow and Charming going about their lives together, but apart. And also Henry and Violet’s relationship. – The mirror world looked cool. It was cool we got to see it. – Rumple and EQ are so good on screen together. Delicisously evil. I wonder if EQ will kill Zelena. My guess is Regina will save her and then she will know which sister she truly needs. Mixed: – Dragon CGI, ehhh. – Putting a mirror back together is the solution to get out? Huh? – I too was confused why Emma and Regina couldn’t communicate with Henry through the mirror bc Regina could do it with Sydney. But once the EQ adjusted the mirror so that Henry could see and hear what was going on, it makes sense that Regina did that with Sydney as well.
-Yes, I agree that Regina will save Zelena.
-Now that you have explained the mirror adjustment, I think I will up my score to 7/10. It still loses points for Sydney taking a long time to figure out that all he needed to do was piece together a specific mirror to escape. It wasn’t mentioned that he didn’t try bc of the lack of fire-breath so….?
Keeper of Regina's bravery
But once the EQ adjusted the mirror so that Henry could see and hear what was going on, it makes sense that Regina did that with Sydney as well.
Hmm. Okay, I’ll take that.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I personally enjoyed this episode very much, I hadn’t enjoyed an episode like this since Mr. Hyde died.
Overall 8.5/10
Liked:
– EQ, Rumple and Zelena stole the show. All the scenes they were on were very well acted and really enjoyed their dialogues, especially Zelena’s.
– The mirrors world, liked Granny and Sneezy scenes.
– Henry contributed to the episode plot
– Perfect amount of screen time given to Snowing and CS.
– EQ made me miss Cora
– Aladdin and Jasmine I guess, they added something different to the episode.
– Finally something about LilyDisliked:
– Emma being emo, enough said
– EQ being sloppy. Maybe should have thought of tying Hook up or something?
– Belle. I think that she is overreacting with her Rumple hate thing and also think that she’s partially responsible for creating this new beastly version of Rumple. Telling Rumple that he is weak/scared/coward/etc. is only making things worse and pushing him to the edge. Just drop the Zelena/Hook bff thing and ask your husband to meet you at Grannies for a coffee to talk.I don’t know. Maybe 6/10? Some aspects were really good. But it still doesn’t seem to be going anywhere at all. This season is just shuffling in place. I find it really hard to get excited about this show these days.
Liked
I really enjoyed the Snow/Charming routine. It was absolutely lovely.
Ok, this episode was major SQ bait. But I actually enjoyed it. It’s always nice to see Emma and Regina team up and pep talk at each other.
Mirror world was aesthetically neat
Meh
Henry. Jared Gilmore does fine with what he’s given. But the writing… oh dear. The show runners need to stop writing him like their idea of what they would be like if they were 16 again. Seriously, 16 Candles?
Jasmine and Aladdin. What, precisely, is their point?
Disliked
What is this horror show that is Rumbelle nowadays? I actually find it uncomfortable to watch, the abuse and hate on both sides is just… Ugh. I just want it to stop. Also, it’s not just Rumple (who has become truly horrifying), Belle is also bizarre, and part of it is Emilie’s acting. Is it just me, or did her acting in that Granny’s scene when she’s talking to Aladdin seem a bit… off?
Dragon — most stereotyped character ever. Sigh.
I was so excited for this ep that I disappointed myself. It didn’t live up to my expectations. But all in all it was still pretty good.. Good character moments and excitement about that whole mirror trap ordeal. I’ll give it a 7/10
Likes:
1: Regina and Emma’s friendship: I always like when they work together. Womanpower! (cause they aint girls) I liked their parenting talk, it was sweet. Regina admitting that she was afraid to raise Henry alone and Emma getting her hopes or her fighting will back and saying we will do it together… That was all the sweet! And nice symbolism, in that, they were each other’s mirrors. They needed each other’s perspective to see what was good about themselves, but the writing should have dwelled on this a bit more and made that point more clear to the audients I think, because that was a really important lesson…At night when Regina and Emma was watching Henry, there was a follow up on the talk, with Regina saying she didn’t realize Henry was so strong and that they didn’t need to worry about him (she used other words) Emma saying he will be alright, even without her, because they both raised him well… That was sweet but the only minus I have for that is: didn’t that sort of take back all the progress the trapping behind the mirror was about??…:
I liked very much how many of the characters were each other’s mirrors. Emma/Regina. Henry/Violet. Evil Queen/Emma-Regina-Henry, even Zelena/Belle in a way.
2: The Rumple and Evil Queen “thing”: Sometimes it’s hard to look at. They are obviously deliberately trying to make us all cringe over this. But that’s also why it’s so good. And everyone is wondering what’s the what with all this. Like what in Merlin’s name are they getting out of it??? In one clip I think it’s all a power trip.. The next clip I think– Hey! is the Queen actually enjoying this? And Rumple… well he is just kind of stoneface about the whole thing.
3: Evil Queen: She is an enigma. Does she feel love for Henry? Does she feel love or some kind of compassion for her sister Zelena? and will she kill her? We already know she is capable of killing what she loves. What is it that she wants? She says she wants a beginning- I like that. She is not fully her own person, not fully alive, until she cuts whatever her ties are to Regina.
4: Henry: He was sweet and his thing with Violet is cute. He made all the right choices this ep, but I wonder if its gonna last, or will he be Darth Wadered?
5: Zelena: I liked her this episode, with her smirking over Rumple, she is so wickedly sarcastic and fun.
6: Mushu: I did simply LOVE the beautiful dragon.. it was a real Chinese one. This is how real dragons look like.
edit: 7: Uh I almost forgot. The Charmings.. They were sweetness. And that song that played during the montage is my new favorite song.
Dislikes:
1: Mainly I was disappointed with how they created the Mirrorworld and how they got back out of there. They (storywriters)didn’t put much though into it. Okay so we got to see Sidney’s “house” that’s ..nice. One thing I did like about Mirrorworld was that it looked like a Salvador Dali painting.
The way out of the mirror was way too easy. I could easily think of more interesting ways. They should have gone deeper and explored what the metaphor of the mirror really means. They should have been more creative with the mechanics of the magic. Mirrors are, like dreams, a perfect opportunity for them to dig deep.. They missed it. Really, in my opinion, they should have let this story span two episodes, because they could have done so much more with it.
What was the point of putting them in the mirror in the first place? I mean for the storywriters? They could have had the same character moments any and everywhere.
Note to self:: Don’t get frustrated again with what the show isn’t doing, just see that which they give you.
2: Seriously what’s with all the death wishes among our favorite hero crew?? Last week, the Charmings were gonna sacrifice themselves and leave their family in the Queens mercy, when clearly they had other options.. This week, both Emma and Regina can’t jump over each other fast enough, to see who is gonna sacrifice themselves first? This is not very hero like.. So who is the real hero this season?
Questions I have following this episode:
Can or will Evil Queen Kill Zelena?
Who is the dragon’s daughter?
Who is Violet. She doesn’t need a label, ‘cause she’s Violet, but seriously…Who is she?
What’s Rumple up to? (This is every episodes question)
GRIMMSTER:
The way out of the mirror was way too easy. I could easily think of more interesting ways. They should have gone deeper and explored what the metaphor of the mirror really means. They should have been more creative with the mechanics of the magic. Mirrors are, like dreams, a perfect opportunity for them to dig deep.. They missed it. Really, in my opinion, they should have let this story span two episodes, because they could have done so much more with it.What was the point of putting them in the mirror in the first place? I mean for the storywriters? They could have had the same character moments any and everywhere.
Note to self:: Don’t get frustrated again with what the show isn’t doing, just see that which they give you.
I totally agree with you …. having REGINA & EMMA trapped for longer then this one episode would have been great …. BUT LESSONS from the past the writers have learned is … THE AUDIENCE clammers for fast results and resolutions of problems. Following social media / forums / podcast the audience has no patience for drawn out arcs AS EVIDENCED by what was said about FROZEN, DARK ONE and HADES arcs…. everyone want the stories to move faster. .I also think that A&E see the writing on the wall and they are trying to end the show, tie up loose ends and tell the story they want ( THEY have always said they knew the ending of the series) That is one reason we do not get a lot of character moments… the other reason being we rarely got a lot of character moments .. it is more action, action, action. I think this is the last season for ONCE. WE will be looking for a new show to watch at 8 pm in the future.
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.A decent episode overall. I’m glad GoldenQueen is more to do with manipulation than “romance”, it’s quite sleazy when you think about it. Also I’m half expecting a reveal that Rumple had it off with Cora’s grandmother at some point since A&E are having him plough his way through the Mills women in some form or another.
This season has been very good for Hook. He actually seems like a decent guy recently. It seems they’ve gone the Spuffy route with CS, Villain starts off obsessively fixating on the heroine in a sexual way and eventually redeems himself through her love.
Zelena’s snark is great and EQ continues to be a lot of fun.
Snowing have actually got a storyline that makes sense. So far this season is at least of season 2 quality with shades of season 1.
RumBelle are having issues about the same thing yet again for the 5th year in a row (6th if you count Belle leaving in Skin Deep). If they’re going to fall out at least let it be about something different.
I think they forget Henry is only supposed to be 13 and not closer to Jared’s age of 17. Henry’s storyline and behaviour this episode would seem realistic for a 17 year old, not a 13 year old.
Overall I’d give it an 8/10.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of Felix1: GRIMMSTER………..2: THE AUDIENCE clammers for fast results and resolutions of problems. Following social media / forums / podcast the audience has no patience …………..3: I think this is the last season for ONCE. WE will be looking for a new show to watch at 8 pm in the future. . .Quote
1: Nonnie, the names’s GrimmSIStr 😉
2: I agree. This is the problem for a lot of shows and, hate to say it guys, but especially the American ones. But thats only because you guys are further ahead of us on the social media front. We will also get there, and I believe this stuff is screwing with our human mind.. pretty soon we will all be robots…. I kid… but its true though.
3: Im hoping for a season 7 and then for it to end. Because 7 is the magic fairytale number and that would be perfect for this show…plus Im not totally ready for the story to end yet.. Im going to miss it 🙁 flaws and all.
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