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A few other thoughts….
Not sure I actually liked the CS proposal. I don’t think I enjoy that Emma found the ring beforehand. To me, it ruined the proposal and the surprise. They needed to do it that way so that Hook could keep his secret a little longer without the audience being mad at him for doing it. PLOT PLOT PLOT got in the way of a better CS proposal. And not to mention Hook was drunk! He had like 5 shots at Granny’s.
Yeah … but they live together… and those things happen… putting away laundry into the drawers / sea chest … OH MY A RING! IT is hard to keep secrets from people you live with.
Same with the DIRTY PIRATE KILLS GRAND PA … the secret will be outed.
[adrotate group="5"]Given the other Tolkien allusions in this episode, I’m sure the ring wanted to be found.
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Overall 9/10.
Really enjoyed the episode as I found it had a very nice mix of characters and dynamics. Would have given it a 10/10 if it had not been for the Hook+Emma scenes (no offence to anyone ) but I just felt they were out of place in this episode context and storylines.
Liked :
– The Blue Fairy. I just think she makes the show better. Can she be evil already? lol. Really enjoyed her bickering with Rumple.
– The EQ is back, yay!!
– Rumple and Gideon/Rumple Baelfire. Good chemistry and loved the parallel stories. Also props for the re-cast of Baelfire.
– Dark one’s dagger usage (see extra notes below).
– Zelena and Robin. Really enjoyed the dynamic between those two.
– Regina’s realizations about her other half and her scenes with Robin and Zelena.
– Rumple and Belle’s scene. Sad, sweet, but somehow gave me a vibe of bad things to come.Disliked:
– Regina’s fedora. Why? Why? Why?
– Hook and Emma scenes. Felt a bit out of place for this episode and seemed like could have been saved for next episode instead.Extra notes:
About Baelfire commanding Rumple to kill Beowulf, I honestly didn’t see it as bad as many of you did. I always thought that using the dagger somehow affected the decision making of the person unconsciously and began corrupting the person (darkened their heart) the more they used it, just like the ring did to Gollum and Frodo in LTR. Cause otherwise who pays the price for the dark magic when the dagger is used? Clearly not the dark one. In season 4 we learned that the darkness slowly consumes the host to attempt to free itself, so the more dark magic you use, the closer the darkness is from being free.
With that being said, there was never any reference of Zoso ever being consumed by the darkness during his time as the dark one, he did try to free himself from it by using the hat though, until he got enslaved by the duke/Hordor. It’s clear that a lot of dark magic was wilded using the dagger after Hordor took control over Zoso, so if the use of dark one’s dark magic accelerates the rate at which the darkness takes over the host to free itself, shouldn’t the darkness had been free by then? My theory is that the host pays the price (heart darkens) to use dark one’s magic the same way the dark one does, except that the darkness doesn’t take over them like it does with the dark one, cause the darkness is an independent entity residing in someone else’s body after all.
When someone controls the dark one through the dagger, the darkness (as an entity) is also controlled by association. I highly doubt that while Hordor was running around the fields of battle, Zoso was playing charades with the darkness, Gorgon and Nimue in his head. Maybe he was with Gorgon and Nimue, but my bet is that the darkness was working on it’s own in the background, perhaps influencing somehow Hordor into doing dark deeds using the dagger. After all, the darker Horder became, the more tempted and curious of dark power he would become no?. Plus at that point, the only way the darkness could have achieved it’s goal of being free would have been if Zoso regained control of the dagger and continued doing dark deeds or if someone stabbed Zoso and became the dark one himself/herself and the cycle re-started again.
I saw somewhere a discussion on why Hordor never commanded the dark one to stop the war (like Rumple did) and part of me thinks that it was due to the darkness slowly corrupting him inside the more he used it to command Zoso to do his bidding. I think the same thing would have happened to Baelfire and Rumple realized this, hence why he decided to dope Baelfire into forgetting the kill.
Plus everyone who has used the dagger does seem to turn a bit darker/possessed somehow.
Belle acted a bit off/out of character (could have been bad writing though) when she commanded Rumple to take her to the ice queen. Plus the command to send him over the town line was a bit too much for Belle to have come up by her own.
Cora, she seemed a bit too eager to kill Rumple and posses the power while she had control of the dagger….
Was just able to watch the episode tonight.
Liked:
– Flashback Rumple is always fun, and seeing him with Bae again was great since their relationship was at the heart of the show originally.
– The Beowulf isn’t really a hero twist. I like surprising twists and this was for me.
– Not ruining Wonderland continuity. When they first mentioned Grendel, I was upset, so I was glad he was made up.
– Rumple’s “selfless” actions in the past and present to keep his sons from the darkness.
Mixed:
– Really cool battle scene at the beginning, but why is no one using Snow’s trick of shooting them with an arrow in the eye? Had no one figured that out yet? Also, where were all the young teenagers like Morraine that were supposed to be fighting?
– The CS proposal. It was nice to have a long awaited moment come, but why did they have to partly ruin it by making it bittersweet? It reminded me of RumBelle’s marriage in 3×22 aka when they started ruining Rumple’s character development.
– Bae’s decision to force Rumple to kill Beowulf. As many have said, it was OOC. Real people have OOC moments of weakness, but it would have been a lot more believable if they’d shown Bae having instant remorse. In the hovel, they could have had him saying how much he regretted his decision, but was still tempted to use the dagger again. Then Rumple could have given him the tea to both remove his guilt and ensure Bae didn’t go down a dark path. Bae’S reaction needed to be more complex to be believable.
– The Blue Fairy. I’m so frustrated by the writers with her! She’s partially responsible for Rumple losing BOTH of his sons, and now we find out she created an enchanted sword, which Gideon, raised by the Black Fairy wants to use? If the writers aren’t going to reveal Evil Blue or Blue is Black, then they’re just screwing with us on purpose.
Disliked:
If Queen Cobra could escape her cage so easily, why did it not happen until now? I know, PLOT.
– Hook not caring about Charming knowing what he did, just Emma.
– I feel like they’re waiting too long to bring in the Black Fairy. How are we going to have enough time with her before season’s end?
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