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September 5, 2013 at 8:35 pm #208305kfchimeraParticipant
I see what you’re saying there PoM, but I am not sure they “need” a major character to die this season.
Such things are good for shock value, but is it good for plot development and characterization? At this point, let’s face it, NO ONE on that ship would mourn Hook dying. There’s a huge fan base, sure, but Emma doesn’t think of him as a friend. We forget the compressed time scale here, but it was barely three days ago he was kicking her out of the way to stab Rumple. With friends like that….you know, the saying.I do think everyone is going to get closer if they’re working on a common goal. Down the line in NL I could see perhaps that type of storyline playing to more impact, or even Neal dying just when everyone thought he was safe. Yet I feel like they made that mistake with Cora already. It just felt anti-climactic more than surprising and shocking. I think even to the general audience. Guest star often equals dead villain.
What can they do to change things up in a way that WOULD be shocking? That would rearrange a lot of the character relationships? I think making Henry or Neal evil might do it. The Dark One curse might transfer to one of them. Looking at MRJ’s resume, I have to say, he’s no stranger to playing the dark characters. That could be why they tapped him (or maybe it was because he had experience being a hated character? I didn’t watch True Blood so not sure what the fandom thought, but I heard he was a serial killer.)
I do agree though they are pushing Hook very hard. I’m not sure it means something in particular like “he’s dying” or “he’s the main hero now.” It flows from a marketing stand point–he’s a familiar classic character, nice catchphrase (get Hooked) (though horrible fanname, Hookers) and sets up this big arc with Neverland.
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September 5, 2013 at 9:15 pm #208309Hook’s GirlParticipantI agree that ABC really needs to be careful on promoting Hook too much. We don’t want the audience to become sick of him. I think ABC is pushing Hook because they want to promote Neverland and they can’t use Peter Pan or Tinkerbell yet. Maybe once Peter Psn starts being promoted Hook’s will decrease. ABC goofed when they promoted Robin Hood so much. The fans got mad that he was only in that episode for like 5 minutes and turned out that the episode was all about Rumbelle, which I loved. When RH is reintroduced this season it will be interesting to see how much promotion ABC will push this time.
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September 6, 2013 at 12:31 am #208327PheeParticipantI think Emma will be the leader of the group but she will take on board any advice Hook has for her. Since Rumple will be off doing his own thing, the other 5 will be the ones having disagreements amongst themselves, particularly Snowing and Regina. Hook will most likely be the second in command since he has actual experience of Neverland and the Lost Ones.
Agreed. Other spoilers have suggested that Emma will be the one to eventually lead them all. And I think she’s gonna start to give Hook more of a chance to prove trustworthy, (he may have run off with the bean in ASOTM, but he did also bring it back), and she knows he has knowledge of NL, so it makes sense to listen to his advice.
So really, these qualities can probably be rationalized to apply to all of them on the ship.
You outlined each point perfectly in that post. I love Hook, but those traits are all hardly unique to him.
They could kill off Hook this season perhaps by PP’s hand. It would tie into the traditional PP/Hook rivalry and also show just dangerous PP is. At some point they are going to have to kill off a main character for real rather than doing fake outs just to show that any one could die.
I reckon NL will have enough death without them having to kill of Hook as well. Odds are, both of GOAT are gonna end up dead. They’re not main characters, but they’re characters we’re pretty familiar with. Felix may also end up biting it. And I also suspect they’re gonna basically kill off the Dark One…the power, not Rumple physically…but it would still essentially be the death of a major character. Killing Hook as well may be (dare I say) overkill.
There is the idea that Hook’s story is tied to NL, and so once they’re done with NL, he’s no longer useful, but I think they could still write story for him moving forward. If Rumple does indeed end up losing his Dark One powers, then Hook’s nemesis is basically dead, but he wasn’t the one to kill him, and he’ll have to come to terms with that. They can also show him trying to build a relationship with Neal, and also give him a new romance. If they’re gonna go off adventuring in yet another world in the future, his ship really is a convenient vessel to get a bunch of main cast through a portal all at once. Or even just to transport people quickly between different places in FTL, or to have knowledge about different parts of FTL, if they all end up back there. Odds are he’s explored more of that world than any of the rest of them have, sailing all over on the JR to all those “glittering shores”, so I can see him still being relevant.
What can they do to change things up in a way that WOULD be shocking? That would rearrange a lot of the character relationships? I think making Henry or Neal evil might do it. The Dark One curse might transfer to one of them. Looking at MRJ’s resume, I have to say, he’s no stranger to playing the dark characters. That could be why they tapped him (or maybe it was because he had experience being a hated character? I didn’t watch True Blood so not sure what the fandom thought, but I heard he was a serial killer.)
I think it’d be more believable to see Henry go dark, instead of Neal. After everything he’s been through in his long life, if Neal hasn’t gone dark already, it ain’t ever gonna happen. In another thread recently, there was some discussion about the possibility of Henry struggling with some magic of his own during his teens, and going dark, and how everyone around him would deal with that. I think that could be a really interesting storyline.
I agree that ABC really needs to be careful on promoting Hook too much. We don’t want the audience to become sick of him. I think ABC is pushing Hook because they want to promote Neverland and they can’t use Peter Pan or Tinkerbell yet. Maybe once Peter Psn starts being promoted Hook’s will decrease.
This is probably a big part of it, I’d say. They did release that pic of Tink recently, but they still don’t wanna reveal too much about her motivations and who she’s working with, and they’re being very secretive about PP, so Hook is the big, iconic, NL related character they can blatantly promote right now.
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