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707 "Eloise Gardener" Favorite/Least Favorite Moments

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Season Seven › 7×07 “Eloise Gardener” › 707 "Eloise Gardener" Favorite/Least Favorite Moments

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  • November 18, 2017 at 1:38 pm #344699
    MatthewPaul
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    I think what they are trying to say is that WishRealm Regina gave WishRealm Hook a map that took him to EF 2.0, where Drizella/Tremaine/ect live.

    Didn’t WishRegina even say the tower was in another realm?

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    November 18, 2017 at 2:12 pm #344703
    Stahlop
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    Stahlop wrote:
    bibliophile wrote:
    So are Cinderella, Drizella and Lady Tremaine all from the Wish Realm too? In this episode we see WishHook meet up with WishRegina to plot their revenges on WishRumple and The WishCharmings (all of it thirtyish years before we think Wish Realm was even created which still bugs me too) and all that stuff with the Tower and Gothel seemed to be happening in the same realm that they were already in… so is everyone from season seven a Wish Realmer except for our Rumple and our Regina?! Or am I just hopelessly confused?

    I didn’t even think of that. Why would Hook be upset about the tower being in disarray if it’s not the tower from the Wish Realm? Or was that just lazy writing on the writers part? They can’t be in the Wish Realm because it would have to be the same Cinderella, just without the curse having hit.

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    I think what they are trying to say is that WishRealm Regina gave WishRealm Hook a map that took him to EF 2.0, where Drizella/Tremaine/ect live.

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    I don’t think that was implied. He would’ve needed a magic bean otherwise.  When Regina was talking about Drizella and meeting her near the tower, Wish Hook looked panic stricken about it being in ruins. Why would it matter since the tower he was with Alice in was in the Wish Realm and not EF 2.0?

    Also, how old should Alice be? At the least, when they find each other again, she should be on her 30’s as she was born right around the time Regina was supposed to cast the curse. Perhaps Wonderland messed with her aging like Neverland did to Hook?

    November 18, 2017 at 2:29 pm #344704
    RumplesGirl
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    He would’ve needed a magic bean otherwise.  When Regina was talking about Drizella and meeting her near the tower, Wish Hook looked panic stricken about it being in ruins. Why would it matter since the tower he was with Alice in was in the Wish Realm and not EF 2.0?

    Like Matt said, didn’t Wish!Regina say it was in another realm?

    And they can pretty easily get around the magic bean thing by simply not showing Hook using one, which is what they did. Realm travel isn’t what it used to be where it was almost next to impossible.

    I don’t think the tower was ever in Wish Realm. The ruined tower that Drizella and Regina were practicing at last week is the same tower WR!Hook raised Alice in. So it’s the same realm that Henry, Ella, et al are in—the EF 2.0

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    November 18, 2017 at 3:27 pm #344706
    hjbau
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    There has been a lot of unknown portal jumping going on. Alice is jumping back and forth between Wonderland. Hook jumping back and forth between the wish realm and the new Enchanted Forest. Henry could have just jumped back to Storybrooke in the first episode. The mirror that Alice tossed over Drizella that took her back to the Enchanted Forest 2 as well. I think they are just doing it and are not going to explain it. Though, it was always traveling between the land without magic and the magical lands that was the most difficult thing. Traveling between magical realms was always much easier.

    November 18, 2017 at 5:03 pm #344709
    Stahlop
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    Since we have a new Jack in the EF 2.0 maybe there was a truce with the giants and magic beans are just common now. Henry said he was one of the first friends he met when he came to EF 2.0. It would explain why he and his family have an abundance of magic beans.

    November 18, 2017 at 5:26 pm #344710
    TheWatcher
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    –How does “many years ago” even make sense for the Wish Realm??? It didn’t exist until last year! (yes, I will continue to find this befuddling!)

    This is extra confusing when you remember that 1) EQ (that is alive now) was only create when she was split from regina fairly recently ago. So….this is ANOTHER Evile Queen. The WishRealm EQ. Not the real one, not the one who was created from the split, but one who resided in the wish realm and is still alive somewhere, magicless.

    Gahhh

     

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    November 18, 2017 at 5:28 pm #344711
    TheWatcher
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    Since we have a new Jack in the EF 2.0 maybe there was a truce with the giants and magic beans are just common now. Henry said he was one of the first friends he met when he came to EF 2.0. It would explain why he and his family have an abundance of magic beans.

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    I don’t think hes “that” jack.  I think hes just some guy named Jack. He probably has a backstory (what teenager is running around on their own, since he met henry when he first arrived in the EF 2.0 and he was just a teen/18 year old) but I don’t think hes from the beanstalk.

    "I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
    Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC

    November 18, 2017 at 5:41 pm #344712
    MatthewPaul
    Moderator

    I don’t think hes “that” jack.  I think hes just some guy named Jack. He probably has a backstory (what teenager is running around on their own, since he met henry when he first arrived in the EF 2.0 and he was just a teen/18 year old) but I don’t think hes from the beanstalk.

    He and Henry mentioned giants, so seems pretty clear he is either Jack and the Beanstalk’s Jack, Jack the Giant Killer’s Jack or both.

    November 18, 2017 at 5:58 pm #344713
    hjbau
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    I think that there might be an abundance of beans because of Henry’s relationship with Jack is a great idea, but we haven’t seen any beans. That is totally what they should do though.

    November 19, 2017 at 11:43 am #344723
    TheWatcher
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    TheWatcher wrote:

    I don’t think hes “that” jack. I think hes just some guy named Jack. He probably has a backstory (what teenager is running around on their own, since he met henry when he first arrived in the EF 2.0 and he was just a teen/18 year old) but I don’t think hes from the beanstalk.

    He and Henry mentioned giants, so seems pretty clear he is either Jack and the Beanstalk’s Jack, Jack the Giant Killer’s Jack or both.

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    Did he really? Oh god I need to do a rewatch, I totally missed it :/

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