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November 19, 2017 at 3:53 pm #344724ry4christParticipant
Since we have a new Jack in the EF 2.0 maybe there was a truce with the giants and magic beans are just common now. Henry said he was one of the first friends he met when he came to EF 2.0. It would explain why he and his family have an abundance of magic beans.
Ooh I really like that theory. Plus it would be fun to see them do Jack again since we only got her in on episode in S2.
[adrotate group="5"]November 19, 2017 at 4:02 pm #344726ry4christParticipant–How does “many years ago” even make sense for the Wish Realm??? It didn’t exist until last year! (yes, I will continue to find this befuddling!)
This is the only way I can make sense of this in my head: The Wish Realm wasn’t actually created by The EQ’s wish, it was just accessed by the wish. It already existed prior to the wish, and our Emma replaced the Emma in Wish Realm when the wish was made. Perhaps, as someone on here said, there are many, many realms that exist where a different choice was made in the timeline – for example ranging from a realm where Rumple never became the Dark One to a realm where young Snow didn’t tell Cora Regina’s secret. It’s really messy, and I wish Regina, Henry, or Rumple would question all of this to provide us an explanation, but that’s the best I can come up with.
November 19, 2017 at 4:56 pm #344727StahlopParticipant–How does “many years ago” even make sense for the Wish Realm??? It didn’t exist until last year! (yes, I will continue to find this befuddling!)
This is the only way I can make sense of this in my head: The Wish Realm wasn’t actually created by The EQ’s wish, it was just accessed by the wish. It already existed prior to the wish, and our Emma replaced the Emma in Wish Realm when the wish was made. Perhaps, as someone on here said, there are many, many realms that exist where a different choice was made in the timeline – for example ranging from a realm where Rumple never became the Dark One to a realm where young Snow didn’t tell Cora Regina’s secret. It’s really messy, and I wish Regina, Henry, or Rumple would question all of this to provide us an explanation, but that’s the best I can come up with.
This makes the most sense. Dont forget, the Evil Queen’s actual wish was to grant Emma’s wish of never becoming the savior. It was Regina who claimed it was just a Wish Realm and not real. I wonder what happened to the real Emma in their world though if it was a real place.
November 19, 2017 at 7:30 pm #344730hjbauParticipantThough, this isn’t actually multiverse where slightly different choices were made. These are different people doing similar stories. There seems to be multiple other realms within this different realm. A different Wonderland. A different Enchanted Forest. There is no other Snow that looks like Ginnifer Goodwin. I think that is what is different with the wish realm. It is exactly the same until that one choice, so it is more like multiverse.
November 19, 2017 at 8:14 pm #344731ry4christParticipantThough, this isn’t actually multiverse where slightly different choices were made. These are different people doing similar stories. There seems to be multiple other realms within this different realm. A different Wonderland. A different Enchanted Forest. There is no other Snow that looks like Ginnifer Goodwin. I think that is what is different with the wish realm. It is exactly the same until that one choice, so it is more like multiverse.
Right. Wish Realm is multiverse-esque while the New Enchanted Forest and presumably new Wonderland aren’t as much because, they have different people with completely different stories than Enchanted Forest A.
November 20, 2017 at 1:18 am #344733StahlopParticipantOne more thing to ponder. Gothel tells Hook that she can only leave if she leaves some one from her bloodline. She also says that Rapunzel managed to trap her in the castle. So either Rapunzel and Gothel are related in some way, or Rapunzel managed to make a curse that added this little bit to ensure she was trapped forever (not thinking that anyone would come to Gothel’s rescue).
Also, on second watch I did hear that Evil Queen did tell Wish Hook the tower was in a ‘distant realm’, so I guess he did travel to it somehow. It just seems awfully convenient that he happened to be there again.
November 20, 2017 at 8:20 am #344739hjbauParticipantYeah, it could be possible that Gothel is actually Rapunzel’s mother. That would explain away why Rapunzel, who is most likely Victoria, doesn’t seem to actually be a member of the royal family. Gothel also seems to not get older even though both fake Hook, Victoria, and Alice are all significantly older then in this instance, so Gothel could still be young and be Rapunzel’s mother, like with Rumpel’s parents.
That would then make Alice and Rapunzel sisters. Victoria’s response to seeing Alice always seems to be extreme fear where she just ends up starring at her.
November 20, 2017 at 11:36 am #344752SlurpeezParticipantIn the German fairytale, Rapunzel is not called a princess. Her character was probably just Disnified.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
November 20, 2017 at 4:33 pm #344767hjbauParticipantRight, but they usually go with the Disney version, but they might not here. There is very little that is even in the realm of Disney in the new show.
November 20, 2017 at 6:05 pm #344774MatthewPaulModeratorRight, but they usually go with the Disney version, but they might not here. There is very little that is even in the realm of Disney in the new show.
If the theory of Lady Tremaine being Rapunzel comes to fruition, then it’s a huge deviation from the Disney version.
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