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November 20, 2017 at 8:12 pm #344800WickedRegalParticipant
Caught 50/50 with this….
Rating: 5/10
Like:
Hook with his daughter….that was a nice moment. And character development considering he gave up his revenge to raise his kid.
Seeing Wish Realm EQ.
Rumple’s character development shows again….he was willing to protect Hook from himself.
Mixed:
So are we ever going to find out what happened to Wish Realm EQ?
Disliked:
I’m sorry, but even if Snow White & Charming got rid of Regina’s magic, which I don’t even think is possible without the user’s consent…..there’s no way the Evil Queen would have given up on her revenge. She was still a master swordswoman, master manipulator, and a Queen, she would’ve went out in blaze of glory while destroying everything around the Charmings.
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November 20, 2017 at 10:40 pm #344804TheWatcherParticipantSo are we ever going to find out what happened to Wish Realm EQ?
I’m honestly guessing she sailed off to another area, and lived into old age and died. WishRealm Snow and Charming were already elderly looking so Regina would have had to have been even older. And with no magic to keep her safe and young and no royal status, I am sure the Wish Realm EQ is long dead and gone. Fprced to live out her days as a commoner thirsty for revenge but no power or status to see it through. How delicious.
…..there’s no way the Evil Queen would have given up on her revenge
True but by nature of the wish realm being a place where the EQ lost, so really no matter what, the EQ had to leave the charmings alone forever in this world. Obviously the obvious thing to do would have been for the charmings to have killed her, but I guess that doesn’t sound as noble
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICNovember 24, 2017 at 7:07 pm #344824PheeParticipantI’d actually been rather enjoying the season. Then these two convoluted plot episodes happened. Oh Show, you’d been doing so well. But then an overnight magic flower baby, really? REALLY? *facepalm*
Does Rogers not have a picture of Eloise?? Cause if he did, surely he would realize that young Eloise Gardener couldn’t a be an older woman with graying, multi-colored matted hair???
This right here is a big reason why I just did not believe that Alice would be Hook’s missing kid, because it would be absurd that a missing person’s case file wouldn’t contain their photo, (should have realised which show I’m watching and not ruled out something based on it being absurd), so if the missing person Hook was looking for was his daughter, then Alice couldn’t be Eloise Gardener because he’d seen Alice’s face. So now I’ll have to fanwank that it’s totally reasonable that a missing person’s case file has no photo of the missing person, if said case file was made by a curse. Fine. *sigh*
I guess I can see how he jumped to the conclusion that it was just case closed when he saw a female huddled in a corner being hidden away by Victoria, because he just needed the case solved that badly? But just a few minutes earlier I’d been watching him actually put clues together with the ink on the page that ran, and Weaver complimenting him on actually being a good detective, so this ending just didn’t exactly compute IMO.
Rumple protecting Hook–even if it’s Cursed Wish Realm Hook–from himself is maybe the biggest sign of character development EVER.
I feel like Weaver is starting to live up to his name. With all the things he knows about all the different people, especially now that he’s awake, he has the ability to control how these people interact, “weaving” them into each other’s paths as he deems necessary. I like that he’s mindful of “saving Rogers from himself” because he knows what obsession is like, and they even had him looking at the Dagger to drive home that he’s reflecting on how obsession can destroy a person. I just hope he’s actually got a long game that does involve Rogers learning the truth and being reunited with his child. Because Rumple knows what it’s like to be torn apart from your child, so if he really has changed in his attitude towards Hook, he should ultimately help him out with reuniting with his child.
I think the idea of Hook staying and raising the baby is ridiculous. He would never do that. He sold Bae to Pan. He killed his father and abandoned his brother. There is no i am going to take care of this helpless infant in Hook’s character.
They tried to play up his own abandonment issues as the reason why he’d stay. But yeah, this is the guy who sold out the son of the woman he loved to Pan. The writers orchestrated his whole family sob story after that fact, so it doesn’t exactly fit together. They could have made it a bit more believable if he’d had a line about regretting what he’d done to Bae, and how he should have known better considering his own personal history, but he learned from that mistake and he wasn’t gonna abandon another child. Maybe that would have made the sudden decision to stay a little less jarring?
Again I’m disappointed that such an excellently written and acted character is not related to the Stiltskin clan. Seriously which family reunion do you think Alice would fit in at – The Jones Reunion or The Stiltskin Reunion?
THIS!!!!
I’m sorry, but even if Snow White & Charming got rid of Regina’s magic, which I don’t even think is possible without the user’s consent…..there’s no way the Evil Queen would have given up on her revenge. She was still a master swordswoman, master manipulator, and a Queen, she would’ve went out in blaze of glory while destroying everything around the Charmings.
Agreed, this “welp I give up, so long” version of EQ just did not feel in character at all. She’d have been out there burning villages until she found the MacGuffin that could give her her magic back so she could get even more revenge on Snow and Charming than before, not running away with her tail between her legs.
But then, nothing about this “Many Years Ago” history of the Wish Realm makes any sense, so.
November 25, 2017 at 9:54 pm #344828SlurpeezParticipanthjbau wrote: I think the idea of Hook staying and raising the baby is ridiculous.
All I see in in that scene is Colin, not Hook. When I watched the scene, I couldn’t get past the mental image of Colin singing to his real baby in his Irish brogue. No amount of acting could make me believe that it was Wish Hook and not Colin. Colin and the baby are adorable, but it was an obvious case of fan pandering.
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