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November 13, 2017 at 2:33 pm #344455MatthewPaulModerator
ROGERS MAKES A SHOCKING DISCOVERY IN THE CASE OF ELOISE GARDENER, AND HOOK IS FACED WITH A LIFE ALTERING DECISION FOLLOWING AN ENCOUNTER WITH RAPUNZEL, ON ABC’S ‘ONCE UPON A TIME’
“Eloise Gardener” – In pursuit of revenge, Hook seeks a dark and powerful magic, but an encounter with Rapunzel could alter his fate forever. Meanwhile, in Hyperion Heights, Ivy’s plot to take down Victoria intensifies and has unexpected consequences for Jacinda and Lucy. Rogers enlists Henry and Tilly’s help in his ongoing quest to find the missing Eloise Gardner, but what he discovers isn’t what meets the eye, on “Once Upon a Time,” FRIDAY, NOV. 17 (8:00–9:00 p.m. EST), on The ABC Television Network.
“Once Upon a Time” stars Lana Parrilla as Regina/Roni, Robert Carlyle as Rumpelstiltskin/Weaver, Colin O’Donoghue as Hook/Rogers, Andrew J. West as Henry Mills, Gabrielle Anwar as Lady Tremaine/Victoria Belfrey, Dania Ramirez as Cinderella/Jacinda and Alison Fernandez as Lucy.
Guest starring in this episode are Christopher Gauthier as Smee, Adelaide Kane as Drizelle/Ivy, Rose Reynolds as Alice/Tilly, Emma booth as The Witch and Meegan Warner as Rapunzel.
“Eloise Gardener” was written by David H. Goodman & Brigitte Hales and directed by Alex Kalymnios.
[adrotate group="5"]November 13, 2017 at 10:32 pm #344520RumplesGirlKeymasterIn pursuit of revenge, Hook seeks a dark and powerful magic,
I’m guessing they mean against Rumple so it’s a good chunk of time ago, meaning Rapunzel is more likely to be a love interest–rather than a daughter-like many of us have speculated?
Yeahhhhh. I’m like 99% sure that Rapunzel is Victoria/Tremaine and Anastasia is their child.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 13, 2017 at 11:17 pm #344534MatthewPaulModeratorI’m guessing they mean against Rumple so it’s a good chunk of time ago, meaning Rapunzel is more likely to be a love interest–rather than a daughter-like many of us have speculated?
Yeahhhhh. I’m like 99% sure that Rapunzel is Victoria/Tremaine and Anastasia is their child.
And Hook appears to be the Flynn Rider stand-in for this episode. It’s amusing, because the CS fandom kept comparing Emma and Hook to Rapunzel and Flynn for years. And Emma was even a Rapunzel stand-in for “Operation Mongoose”.
November 14, 2017 at 12:48 am #344537TheWatcherParticipantcould alter his fate forever
God this is so lazy. You could put this same exact line into any episode description ever.
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I’m guessing they mean against Rumple so it’s a good chunk of time ago, meaning Rapunzel is more likely to be a love interest–rather than a daughter-like many of us have speculated?
The photos make Rapunzel look a fair bit younger than Hook IMO, so I’m still betting on daughter. It could be that he didn’t even know he was a father until he comes across Rapunzel, and that discovery that he had a child is what “alters his fate forever” if it gives him an attitude adjustment, something else to focus on instead of endlessly going after Rumple. I mean honestly, it’d be pretty believable if Hook had fathered a child he had no knowledge of what with all the drunken one night stands. And maybe Rapunzel had heard stories about her father having been a pirate, and maybe she’d been told a description of him, like how he always wore a red vest and had a hook for a hand, so she puts it together who he is when they meet in the tower.
November 14, 2017 at 8:37 am #344541hjbauParticipantI do think that the obvious is still that Rapunzel is Hook’s daughter and that Rapunzel is Victory, but this show really likes to do the random thing instead of the thing that makes sense. That is very bad writing.
November 14, 2017 at 9:26 pm #344556SlurpeezParticipantI’m guessing they mean against Rumple so it’s a good chunk of time ago, meaning Rapunzel is more likely to be a love interest–rather than a daughter-like many of us have speculated? Yeahhhhh. I’m like 99% sure that Rapunzel is Victoria/Tremaine and Anastasia is their child.
I’m starting to think so, too. It’s a shame that the writers didn’t seem to tell Colin and Gabrielle that important piece of information because based on the way they acted during their first scene together, one wouldn’t believe that they were really more than acquaintances. Lady Tremaine did say “after what you did to me,” but based on the delivery of that line, I thought that was more like being double crossed because Wish Hook is a pirate. He certainly didn’t seem to look at her as the mother of his child whom he really seems to care about as a father. One would think that if Lady Tremaine were Rapunzel and that she were Wish Hook’s baby mama that he would have looked at her differently than he did. I’m pretty sure he just smirked at her without much feeling or concern for her.
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November 14, 2017 at 10:33 pm #344562hjbauParticipantYeah, but they didn’t tell Colin that he was the dark one either. That arc made no sense either. The set up didn’t have a thing to do with the trick ending and the same might be true here.
November 14, 2017 at 10:45 pm #344565RumplesGirlKeymasterLady Tremaine did say “after what you did to me,” but based on the delivery of that line, I thought that was more like being double crossed because Wish Hook is a pirate
So did I at the time. But they don’t tell actors anything anymore? Sean said stuff along those lines in several exit interviews, IIRC.
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