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Honestly? I think the writers realized fairly early on that the Henry/Ella love story wasn’t shaping up to the epic true love story they wanted so they quickly inserted a necklace to prove true love, got them married off screen, and then poofed a baby into existence without any sort of real organic development.
And I think they are going to be leaning heavily on Alice and Robyn because Henry and Ella fizzled out.
Not only did they realize, but they also had to be aware that fans just weren’t buying it. I think it really comes down to Dania Ramirez being horribly miscast in the role. A superior actress might have been able to save the character and her relationship with Henry. I also think she’s had less screentime in these recent episodes, and that could be in response to audience feedback. She’s too integral to the story now to just write out, so I guess they’re just keeping her more in the background till the show ends.
[adrotate group="5"]I really liked Alice and Robyn in this episode. I didn’t think they were going to get their full time in the episode either and they ended up getting a good amount of time, all things considered. Hopefully, we will see more of them in the real world, though they are cursed, so that makes all of the interactions there pretty meaningless.
I think Colin is doing terrible at acting like a father in his scenes with Alice. That just does not work for me at all. It is awkward and weird and he doesn’t act like he cares about her. I constantly forget that those scenes are supposed to be meaningful in the real world because he is her father, because he doesn’t act at all like her father, and is too gruff. I know he has children in real life. I don’t know if they are young and he just has no idea of how people act around adult children, but what he is doing or pretty much not doing is weird.
I think Alice has been really good and is the most compelling thing going on now that they are done with Drizella, and Drizella is just hanging around until she dies or leaves town. I liked that Alice seemed less crazy this time around in the flashbacks. She is still crazy, but at least not dangerous crazy. I liked Regina and Facilier. I liked Zelena interacting with them.
The whole curse thing needs to go away really badly, but i know it is going to hang around. I didn’t mind the curse in the first season because Emma, the main character, had her memories and Henry and Rumpel and Regina, but now they are showing way too many scenes between multiple cursed characters and there is just no point in that. This is an ongoing complaint that will probably never end until the finale, but it is the worst thing about the show right now besides it just generally being boring.
I, also, liked Robyn more in this episode. The acting still isn’t that great, but it was better. I, also, liked that she was like the regular girl from the real world, she ran track, stole a car, showed her smart phone to the girl. It was nice to have someone talking like a regular person instead of having all the characters just seem unrealistic because they don’t speak like humans.
I liked Robin showing Alice the phone too but was anyone else wondering how the smartphone still had battery life, lol?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I liked Robin showing Alice the phone too but was anyone else wondering how the smartphone still had battery life, lol?
You mean like how Henry’s motorcycle still had gas in its tank? Magic! lol!
I actually genuinely enjoyed (most of) this episode! The nonsense with Regina and Facilier and Lucy aside, the rest of it was, dare I say…actually kinda great. It gave me that feeling from the first couple seasons, where I cared about the characters, was feeling for them, and urging them on, and I was wrapped up in discovering their story and actually feeling the magic of it all. Bless Rose Reynolds, because Alice is SUCH an engaging character!
My biggest nitpick, guys c’mon, do some BASIC tarot research, the Death card doesn’t actually mean literal death and that someone’s plotting murder. I appreciate that I need to suspend a whole lotta disbelief with this show, and I can understand Lucy freaking out at the Death card because there’s no way that kid knows anything about tarot cards, but actual witch Regina shoulda known better than to jump to the same conclusion. I know it’s a nitpick, but blah, they shoulda figured out some other way to visually suggest that Facilier was doing something nefarious. The Death card does indicate transformation and a new beginning, so it does actually make sense with him wanting to become the Dark One. But Regina being all, “I saw the Death card, who are you after,” just did not fit.
Robin/Alice are so adorable. “Nobin.”
Shades of when Snowing met and she started calling him Charming. I got that Snowing feeling with Alice and Robyn when they ran into each other in Seattle, too. That pang of, “OMG YOU TWO IDIOTS JUST REMEMBER EACH OTHER PLEASE.”
But, what is going on with everybody from the Market forgetting Tilly? People at my local market remember me, when I go. And Tilly said she goes every day; I only go once a week, at most.
Probably Gothel dosing everyone with a forgetting potion or something. There’s no way that people don’t remember an individual as unique as Tilly if she’s there on a regular basis.
“What if I don’t exist at all?” I really really love Alice, guys. I wish she had been around for so much longer. They’ve actually managed to give Alice complexity and depth that has been lacking in other S7 characters.
Let’s be real, this sorta depth has been lacking in nearly every character for years. I would watch a show all about her adventures in Wonderland (and other places)! Seriously, the way Rose plays her is so compelling, she’s in a class all her own amongst everyone else in this cast, (except Bobby when he’s playing ImpRumple, because nothing beats that). I too am bummed that she wasn’t around longer, I’d have loved to have spent more time getting to know her.
Alice can will things into existence???? Hooooooow? I mean, this probably answer the question of who the Guardian is, though.
I felt like the candle blowing out scene was basically confirmation of her being the Guardian. I mean, they gave her a scene that’s an EXACT parallel to a scene that the Saviour got.
Tilly about to start reading Robin Hood in Henry’s apartment.
And then Robyn (what’s her Seattle name?) carrying a copy of Alice in Wonderland, because it’s her fave.
They waited far too long to do a LGBT couple in this show, and their attempt at Red and Dorothy was quite woeful, but props to them for at least setting it up this well now that they’re finally doing it. Nothing about this couple feels like they’re just there to be the token same sex couple. They have depth, they’re helping each other to be better people, and they have the connection in their cursed personas as well. The setup of their relationship is meaningful, and I can’t wait for them to remember each other.
Alice and Hook’s relationship is really growing on me. I mean when I first found out, I thought it was a stupid ploy to try and get us anti-hook fans to like him, well guess what is kinda worked I don’t hate Nook.
All the Rogers and Tilly stuff tugs on my heart, like, a lot! And then I get bummed because if they’d just done this awkward estranged father figure thing with original recipe Hook and Neal, like they’d so perfectly set up back in the day, then we could have had this interesting version of Hook all along, and I wouldn’t have grown to resent his existence.
Regina why would you send your granddaughter into a person’s house you do not trust to snoop around. I mean Lucy is what 12? Bad Grandma move.
Not just someone you don’t trust, but someone who is legitimately dangerous. That was ridiculous, she should have used Zelena to snoop instead, (and I say that as someone who never wants to see Zelena get more screen time, but seriously it would have made so much more sense than her sending the child in).
Why would Facilier want Rumple’s dagger?
I did roll my eyes all, “RLY that’s his motivation, how very original.” Thinking about it though, I suspect that they’ve introduced someone who wants to claim the Dagger, because Rumple’s in the process of trying to die without passing the Dark One power on to someone new. Adds a bit of extra challenge to the situation because Rumple now needs to actively prevent someone from getting the Dagger and stabbing him with it.
I liked Robin showing Alice the phone too but was anyone else wondering how the smartphone still had battery life, lol?
Solar charger. At least, that’s how I explained Emma’s phone keeping a charge in my fanfic.
Just listened to the ONCE PODCAST and Jeremy et all got me so confused about the time line …. They are making ROBYN too old.
I think the writers are pulling the fan’s leg by screwing with us about the time line … dropping bad hints all the time.
Finally getting around to watching this episode, and I must say, it’s gotta be in the top 5 of the second half of Season 7.
Rating: 7/10
Liked:
Alice is that character who you just want to protect and give all the nice things in the world to! Hands down, the best newest addition of Season 7, and I really wanna see more of this hilarious, heart warming girl! Rose Reynolds nailed this!
Alice & Robyn’s relationship is hella cute and so far, it’s the only new ship of Season 7 that I’m ready to jump on!
WickedSisters always tugs at my emotions!
Ivy, I’m going to miss this girl when she leaves. Loved her apology to Henry.
Mixed:
Soooo….at the end of the season is the Troll just going to come alive in Seattle? Or is it just dead and stone?! Lol!!!
So Dr. Facilier wants the Dark One dagger….gee, how original.
I hate that Henry’s endgame with Jacinda….like so freaking much! Because he seems so much better with Ivy!
Disliked:
I’m sorry, but there’s no way in hell strict mama bear Regina would’ve sent Henry into a lion’s den, therefore I find it absolutely ludicrous that she’d send her granddaughter into Dr. Facilier’s place! It’s implausible and just too OOC for the character we’ve known for the last seven seasons.
I’m not here for the Facilier & Roni relationship….I’m just not.
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