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[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
Jack! Why?!
Look on the bright side. Even though Gretel is dead and gone, we still have a Gretel with her brother and father in Storybrooke.
Well there were things I loved and things I hated about this episode, I give it a 7/10
Liked:
Rumple fixing the chipped cup, will always love Rumbelle and there main symbol has always been and will always be the cup.
Rumple is still Rumple, he knows what is going on, who is keeping secrets, and why. This is what made his character so great in the first couple of season of OUAT. I also liked the fact that while he was clearly unhappy with Regina for keeping this from him, he did not immediately seek revenge on her and instead they had a conversation and decided to try and work together.
Ivy showing some girl power and fighting off her assailant.
Ivy and Regina I think Regina is great in the role of a teacher and Ivy as her student. I wished we would have gotten more of that.
I actually liked the symbolism of the lanterns leading them to home which is each other. It also served as a symbol of Ivy’s need for a guiding light (Anna) in her life. They followed this up with the reminder that Belle was Rumple’s guiding light and Regina wants to be Facilier’s light. Past, present, future that was really well done
Rumple knowing Anna was the guardian (although that will definitely be in my dislikes) and willingly and without any issues letting her go so that she could be with her sister. Rumple has come along way, when he does good things he is closer to Belle. Loved this!
Rumple also showing that he still has some bite also. At the core Rumple is a don’t mess with my family or you will pay the consequences guy and that is still very much the same. He felt like the dark one when talking to Facilier and I like the complexity of Rumple being a good guy but also everyone knowing not to mess with him.
Last week I made a joke about Facilier being the guardian in one of the forums and this week I am not joking, maybe he is the guardian. Maybe he does want the dark one dagger so he can take it away from Rumple so he can become mortal and be reunited with Belle.
I did like the fact that Faclier gave Regina the magic so she could help stop the curse on Henry. I wished we had some backstory on these two because I want to like them together but we have way to little information on how they met, why they are together, and how this fits into Regina’s timeline.
I was very sad to see Ivy go because her character was the best of the season after Alice but I was happy that Ivy and Anna got a happy ending.
Disliked:
When did Anna become the guardian, why is she the guardian, and how does everyone know? Rumple thought she MIGHT be the guardian but we never get the end story of this. Is she the one who was in the land that Rumple was trying to find? They just left this huge story hanging. Another question is she THE guardian or A guardian. How many guardians are there?
Hansel and Gretel: I know this is EF2 but really come up with something else. There are so many fairy tales OUAT can pull from pick ones you have not already done.
So Jack is the one killing witches. Why? This seemed so out of left field that it was anticlimactic. One of the things I used to love about OUAT was that they would give us subtle clues throughout several episodes and then make a big reveal. There were absolutely no connection that I could see that Jack was the one killing witches. Does anyone remember when Peter Pan made breakfast for Rumple and said I made them just how you like them. That was the moment when I went huh that sounds like something a parent would say, and guess what a couple of episodes later we find out he is Rumple’s dad. Whatever happened to this subtle hinting.
Henry/Jack/Rogers: It was clumsy, badly written, and just not good. I could have cared less that they were supposed to be friends because we never really got any backstory on this other than maybe a scene or two. Waste of what little time OUAT has left.
Henry and Jacinda: Another waste of time. They are horrible together without any chemistry. When she walked through the door, I was like yeah saw that one coming. Really Badly Done!!!!! Writers we know they are end game, de-emphasize them completely and spend your time on more interesting characters.
Ivy: Here is a character I actually care about, why not have her stick around awhile longer and give her more of a story instead of doing some wand waving and poof she is gone back to EF2.
GENERAL: I liked a lot of tiny things; little moments or quotes that put a smile on my face. The overall story though was a slog. The story of the witches doesn’t really interest me, it’s just plot plot plot. I’m so much more interested in some of the characters like Alice or Drizella. Also, the big reveal was so anticlimactic and feels completely out of left field.
Rating: 7/10
LIKED
–Regina gives Lucy cocoa!
–Rumple fixing the teacup the old fashioned way, with glue. <3
–“I’ve got a fresh can of pepper spray we can try together.”
–“I’ve come to join your little supernatural sewing circle.” Ivy gets great lines.
–Rumple is still Rumple. He still knows everyone and everything. Like, there’s no explanation for why Rumple knows that Facilier wants his dagger or even who Facilier is except that it’s Rumple. And because they’ve built that into his storyline over 6 yrs, I accept it.
–“Every time I do good, it just brings me closer to her [Belle].” There’s my Imp; so glad they’ve kept all the development from “Beauty.”
–Gretel making the log explode into candy gumdrops was incredibly stupid but it absolutely made me break into a smile.
MIXED
–The idea of lanterns guiding Ana and Drizella to each other is sweet but the exposition accompanying it (see below in dislikes) is so heavy handed!
–I’m really hoping Ana is only A guardian and not THE guardian because making a super minor, barely developed character mythologically important is ridiculous writing.
–I can’t tell if it was really cold in the woods during the flashback of if they put Adalaide Kane in a blue tinted lipstick but whatever it was, the color of her lips was really distracting.
–“My gift to you is something I always wish I had: someone who believed I could change.” Um. Her name was Snow White?
DISLIKED
–I wish the show would make an effort to write kids as actual kids. Kids do not talk the way young Anastasia and young Drizella do.
–Captain Hook and Jack are Henry’s best friends because they are the only other two males in the EF 2.0. We have been given next to nothing about their friendship or their time together or anything that draws them together except for circumstances.
–I’m a broken record but Henry and Jacinda are so BLAH together. It’s actually still shocking how woefully miscast Dania was.
–“I guess you underestimated the power of sisterhood.” That line is so unsubtle, it’s painful.
–Aaaaand they just randomly POOF’d Drizella and Anastasia out of HH and out of the story. What exactly is this season even really about?
–I’m becoming increasingly frustrated with the lack of history and context concerning Regina and Facilier.
–Jack being the one to kill the witches is dumb dumb dumb. We have learned almost nothing about him; he’s had a grand total of 10ish minutes of screen time and development. His one significant trait is a plot point (fake Lucy’s dad) instead of an actual characteristic. Why should I care about the murders or the murderer? Like @AKA said, the writers used to be so much better at building these mysteries.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I liked the episode overall, but in general I am not loving this season. It actually started off fairly well, but I think since they’ve learnt that it is indeed going to be the last they have had to do some course correction and get rid of characters earlier than they might have. Drizella should have been Henry’s love interest – there is so much chemistry there.
Another decent episode, but too many unanswered questions and weird character motivations happening.
Liked:
I did like that Roni had cocoa for Lucy, but how was it magically already made? I get that she knew they were coming in to pick up food, but she had a fancy hot cocoa already made.
I’m sad that Ivy is gone because they really could’ve made her go the Regina route with redemption. But now we won’t see it. Why are they getting rid of one of the best new characters?
Mixed:
I’m liking how Rumple has changed so he can be with Belle someday, but I find it hard to believe he would just let Anastasia leave when she’s supposed to be the Guardian he’s been after for so long. What does being the Guardian entail? Can he just give her the dagger and he’s free? Is there a ritual? What’s the process here. And now there’s the possibility that there’s more than one Guardian? Make up your mind show.
How does Rogers fake hand work? Because it always seems to be holding things.
I’m liking that Fascilier seems to be on the good side because of Regina, but what’s his end game with the dagger? Did he basically just facilitate Anastasia and Ivy’s exit to make it easier for him to get the dagger?
The name of the arcade was Flynn’s, so good Tangled shout out, but it would’ve been funnier if it was Litwak’s like in Wreck-It Ralph
Disliked:
Lucy trying to force a relationship with Henry, Rogers and Nick.
How did Gretel get magic and why was it candy magic? And does this mean that the Blind Witch in HH was not Hansel and Gretel’s witch? Because she should be dead then, according to Gretel.
Nick is the killer. I know many of us had made the connection that he might be Hansel, so the killing of witches makes sense, but how does it fit Nick’s character? Is he awake? Was his cursed self given this compulsion or is it breaking through and Nick doesn’t even know why he’s doing it? How does he know who the witches are in this world or does he have other reasons for killing them?
No Tilly or Margo.
C+
The whole premise of this episode didn’t make sense (perhaps someone can explain?).
It was possible for both Facillier and Ivy to get the magic they needed from Anastasia without Ivy endangering her sister’s life. All either had to do was ask. There was no need for Facillier to trick Ivy to get the magic for himself/Regina, and Ivy is intelligent enough and knows enough about magic to figure about that asking would have been sufficient.
All that illogical drama was created to have an emotional bonding session between Regina and Facillier, and Anastasia and Ivy. The ends didn’t justify the means. The characters need better thinking patterns. But I guess I am expecting too much at this point.
Keeper of Regina's bravery
It was possible for both Facillier and Ivy to get the magic they needed from Anastasia without Ivy endangering her sister’s life. All either had to do was ask. There was no need for Facillier to trick Ivy to get the magic for himself/Regina, and Ivy is intelligent enough and knows enough about magic to figure about that asking would have been sufficient.
Facilier’s plan depended on following the cards exactly. That’s why the Doctor on that other show avoids spoilers, because they limit his options.
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So Jack is the one killing witches. Why? This seemed so out of left field that it was anticlimactic. One of the things I used to love about OUAT was that they would give us subtle clues throughout several episodes and then make a big reveal. There were absolutely no connection that I could see that Jack was the one killing witches. Does anyone remember when Peter Pan made breakfast for Rumple and said I made them just how you like them. That was the moment when I went huh that sounds like something a parent would say, and guess what a couple of episodes later we find out he is Rumple’s dad. Whatever happened to this subtle hinting.
Jack aka Hansel in Hansel and Gretel …. Had been tortured by a witch as a child put into an oven where he was burned… probably a good reason to hate witches……
I miss the subtle hinting too but 1/ they only have a short time to end this show so they are skipping the niceties…. 2/ These are new writers who do not seem to know the entire show ambience / past … so they are writing in a different style.
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.Second week in a row that I enjoyed an episode…wonder how long this will last.
Rating: 7/10
Liked:
Excuse the tear that shed while watching Rumple fix the teacup that Belle had given him.
Regina’s grandmother role in Lucy’s life is too precious!
Drizella and Anastasia’s arc this episode was pretty nice to witness.
Rumple and Regina have truly come a long way and the end of this episode proved that better than anything else all season. Knowing that she may be his only chance of getting back to Belle, Rumple willingly helps to send Anastasia home, he willingly gave up that power! And Regina actually let Drizella leave unscathed and healthy without seeking vengeance for her son! Power and vengeance have always been Rumple & Regina’s biggest weaknesses and to see them willingly give it up without anyone having to influence them or for there to be something to benefit truly shows how much these former villains have changed since Season 1, and that alone gave this episode a 7/10 for me.
Mixed:
Sooooo….anyone still confused on what this covent is actually supposed to be because so far, I think we could’ve done Season 7 without them.
Disliked:
What is a Guardian? Why was Anastasia the Guardian?
How exactly is Gothel a threat still….like….I just can’t take this witch seriously! I was more cautious about the Black Fairy from Season 3 to the start of Season 6 and that was only based on the rumors we heard about her from other characters. I just can’t see what makes Gothel so dangerous and so powerful?
Henry’s best friends is his step-father and a witch hunter…..interesting. So there were nooooooo other guys in the Enchanted Forest? Hmmmm….okay.
Henry and Jacinda still don’t do it for me….that little bet scene was cute, but I’m still not feeling it.
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