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July 6, 2013 at 8:08 am #199618PriceofMagicParticipant
Belle and Maurice fell out, not just because he didn’t like Rumple, but because he tried to send Belle over the town line so that she would lose her memories. He knew exactly what he was doing, he wanted her to forget about loving Rumple, even if the cost was that she would lose her identity.
I don’t want Belle and Maurice to reunite just because Rumple is now out of town, because that implies that Rumple was standing in the way and actively stopping Belle from reuniting with her father, which he wasn’t. Maurice would have made Belle marry Gaston even though she didn’t love him. At no point did Maurice consider Belle’s feelings. Maurice and Belle may have been close before Rumple took her away because Belle had no independence of her own, she just did what her father wanted. Belle agreeing to go with Rumple was her first step of making her own decisions.
I can see Maurice thinking that, now Rumple is out of town, he may have a shot at reuniting with Belle. However Belle truly loves Rumple whilst Maurice really hates him. Maurice isn’t going to change his attitude to Rumple, especially as he considers him “a monster”. If Maurice can’t ever accept the fact that Belle loves Rumple and that he is a part of her life, then the chance of Belle and her father reuniting is unlikely.
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Keeper of FelixJuly 6, 2013 at 9:30 am #199619JosephineParticipantI do think they have to reconcile. If we’re routing for Neal to reconcile with his father, I think we need to give similar consideration to Belle and Maurice. Both fathers did what they did for their children out of love and suffered the consequences of their horrible decisions. I think for them to reunite, Maurice has to be repentant and realize the mistakes he’s made in pushing his daughter away. Deep down he does love her and rationalized that he was doing what he thought was best for her. It was wrong, it was horrible, but he loved her and was desperate.
I always got the feeling that the queen probably went to Maurice’s castle and spewed all kinds of lies about Belle dying at Rumple’s hands after she captured her just like she did to Rumple about Maurice shunning her and causing death. She stirs up chaos, meanwhile Belle is sitting in her cell in her own castle. Each man thinking a girl he loves (in different ways) has been destroyed by the other. Maurice probably believed this monster raped and tortured his daughter and when finds out she’s really alive and in love with him he did whatever he could think of to rescue her. I don’t think he really thought out the ramifications of Belle without her memory. He was just trying to save his daughter.
Ultimately, Maurice has to accept the fact the Belle loves Rumple and always will. After all they’ve been through I don’t think that’s going to stop. Maurice doesn’t have to love Rumple, but he does have to accept that this is the choice his daughter made, to spend her life with this man.
My hope is that Maurice encountered Lacey and realized the horrible thing he could have done to his daughter and that’s what wakes him and drives him to apologize once he realizes that Belle has returned, not just because Rumple has left.
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July 6, 2013 at 9:30 am #199620RumplesGirlKeymasterI agree with what PriceofMagic said. Mo is a bit like Rumple, they both think Belle needs to be taken care of when in reality she is more than capable of taking care of herself. We saw that in the The Outsider. So I do think they will reconcile this season, but first he is going to try and treat Belle like a little girl, taking care of her and trying to point out how he was right all along about Rumple. But, of course, she won’t have any of it and ends up running the town.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"July 6, 2013 at 9:45 am #199624PheeParticipant*points at Josephine’s post* Yep, all of that!
My hope is that with Rumbelle separated, they’ll take the opportunity to build on her character as a strong individual. If Moe sees her like that as well, it will likely be a revelation to him that she is actually very capable of making intelligent decisions for herself, (and for others, depending on what role she ends up having in SB), and is able to look after herself emotionally. He’ll no longer be able to look at her as his baby girl who doesn’t know what she’s doing when she wants to be with the dangerous guy. That new respect he could find for her could lead to them being able to reconcile.
July 6, 2013 at 10:08 am #199626JosephineParticipantI’ve got Madonna’s “Papa Don’t Preach” running through my head right now and can’t get it out. 😀 😆
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July 6, 2013 at 11:34 am #199629angiebelleParticipantI love the idea that we find out that Moe did go see Belle in the hospital and was horrified to realize what he almost did to her himself…he probably had no idea that she was a complete blank slate with no identity in the asylum. He wanted to send her over the line without any information regarding who she actually was during the curse!
July 6, 2013 at 12:03 pm #199630PheeParticipantI’ve got Madonna’s “Papa Don’t Preach” running through my head right now and can’t get it out.
Aaaannnnd now it’s stuck in my head too! 😉
July 6, 2013 at 1:37 pm #199632PriceofMagicParticipantThe difference between Bae and Rumple reconciling and Belle and Maurice reconciling is that Bae and Rumple are both main characters whereas Maurice is not. We are more emotionally invested in the outcome for Bae and Rumple especially as Rumple has been a main character since season 1. Unless they plan to make Maurice a recurring character, in the way that Grumpy and Granny are recurring, then I can’t see how Maurice can reunite with Belle then never be seen for the rest of the season. It’s more believable if Maurice attempts to reunite with Belle and it doesn’t work out so he keeps his distance from her rather than he reunites with her and she doesn’t share any scenes with him beyond one episode.
I hope once Rumple gets back from Neverland, he and Belle can be together and deal with problems together rather than being separated all the time.
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Keeper of FelixJuly 6, 2013 at 6:24 pm #199668JosephineParticipantI think they can still pull off Belle being friendly with her dad without him being in every episode. All we need is a mention of him in passing such, “Oh I stopped by the shop today and saw my father.” Heck, as crowded as this show is an as little time as Belle gets we don’t even need that.
I have to admit, even though Mo isn’t a main or even recurring character, that I’m really want to see them reconcile. I think I may be a little more sensitive to it than most people because I just lost my dad a few months ago. I hate the thought that Belle and her father live in the same town and have no communication. I know a lot of family work this way, but it breaks my heart a little to see it. Maurice will never be best pals with Gold, but I think ultimately they could come up with a tentative accord for Belle’s sake.
Heck, Belle was more forgiving of Regina who held her prisoner in two different realms and gave her false memories just to spite everyone. At least Maurice loves his daughter and just wanted what’s best for her, even if it was stupid and misguided plan.
Phee, I keep having the refrain “Daddy, daddy if you could only see / just how good he’s been treating me / you’d give us our blessing right now cause we are in love” repeating in my head. My goal is to get this little earworm in everyone’s head by the end of the day. 😛
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July 6, 2013 at 6:30 pm #199671rumbelledearieParticipantI think it would be interesting to see them bond again – as long as he doesn’t spend the whole time convincing her to give up on Rumple. It would open doors to finding out what happened to her mother as well!
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