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August 22, 2014 at 10:07 pm #280738TheWatcherParticipant
True. I think I meant by “how” was how she did she come across Or meet Lancelot. Why him & not just some peasant? Sorry, I wasn’t clear on that.
Lancelot was in a position of power. There’s no way she’d go back to being just some random peasent.
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2×4 – Who is Belle’s mom & where is she? (Looks like we might get the answer to this one in S4)
2×4 – Regina & Cora learned the heart trick from Rumple. Where did Rumple learn to pull out hearts and either use them or crush them? Was it just an inherited trait or did he steal the trick from someone else?
2×4 – Where did Hook & Milah go after running off?
2×4 – Why did Rumple & Milah get married? How did they meet? Arranged marriage or did Milah really love Rumple?
2×4 – Why did Hook & Milah want the magic portal bean for? Where were they planning to go? Or did they just kidnap Smee to use as a bargaining chip against Rumple?
2×4 – Is Killian Jones related to Davey Jones? Does his last name have special significance to his backstory?
2×4 – Where did Rumple learn to turn back the clock on a person’s age? A Dark One trait or was it stolen from some other magical person?
2×4 – Where did Rumple learn to spin straw into gold? A Dark One trait, stolen from some other magical person, or did he create the idea himself?
2×4 – Will Hook ever find out that Rumple still has his hand? Will he want it back? (Looks like we might get this answer in S4)
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August 25, 2014 at 12:52 pm #280884TheWatcherParticipantWas it just an inherited trait or did he steal the trick from someone else?
Well Rump is the earliest person we have seen use the trick (when he did it to Mila). So it could be interpreted either way. He could have 1.) Just have known how to do it or learned it being all magical or whatever or 2.) He could have actually INVENTED it himself. When he got upset with Mila, he literally wanted to rip out her heart and CRUSH it infront of her. So, being magical, in the instant where he did try to rip out her heart his magic activated and ripped out her heart but sustained her until he crushed it. Does that make sense. Basically, what he did was fueled by magic and rage. And it was the first time it was ever done ever. Maybe. Then he taught it to others. *shrug* It doesn’t seem to be something very common in magic since Cora is like, known for it and infamous for it. If it was a normal magical thing, I’m sure it wouldn’t have been such a huge deal.
Arranged marriage or did Milah really love Rumple?
For some reason, I always assumed it was arranged and while he really loved her, she just put up with him cause you know, like belle said, there aren’t many options for women in their land. It was either be with Rumpel and have something or be alone and have nothing. It didn’t seem they were poor until Mila left.
Is Killian Jones related to Davey Jones? Does his last name have special significance to his backstory?
I’m sure he is. Or else they didn’t want his name to be James since we already had a James on the show… And that James had a twin… So it’d have been Confusing to gave three James basically.
Where did Rumple learn to spin straw into gold? A Dark One trait, stolen from some other magical person, or did he create the idea himself?
I figured since he does it to clear his mind, why not make money from it. Literally. Spinning straw is what got him money as a human, now he literally turns it into cash. I dont think he stole the trick or anything. Rump is just magical.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
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Rumple is the one we’ve seen do the trick the earliest timeline wise (although he was going to rip out Hook’s heart before Milah intervened), however, we saw Pan (Well Panry) do the trick on Felix and Pan is older than Rumple.
I don’t think anyone “invented” that trick otherwise Regina “invented” splitting a heart in two. Taking a heart was always doable for those with magic. However as it was “dark magic” it wasn’t practiced commonly.
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Keeper of FelixAugust 26, 2014 at 6:49 pm #280963TheWatcherParticipantQuestions from S3B premiere:
–What was Zelena’s initial plan? She didn’t know that A.) Cora was dead and that B.) Rumpel was dead. Sooo, did Zelena think she could defeat Cora or hold her off if she tried to stop her time travel plan? Is Zelena more powerful than Cora since she was born with magic? Also, since Z didn’t know Rump was dead, how was she planning on getting his dagger and brain? O.o It seems Zelena was overestimating her circumstances. If either Cora or Rump had returned to the EF alive, she would have been defeated in a matter of seconds…
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
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Well, Zelena was likely taught just as much by Rumple as Cora (“You shouldn’t have taught me all your tricks” in 3×16), and his letter to Cora called her the most powerful sorceress he’d ever encountered, which would obviously include mother dear herself. And this is all pre-pendant, which I’m pretty sure Glinda said would amplify her powers. So to begin with she has this natural knack for magic and has learned most (if not all) of Rumple’s tricks, and then upon returning to Oz her power only grew. I think Zelena would have been able to wipe the floor with Cora, and as she had gotten away unscathed the last time they met and she had only gotten stronger since, she probably assumed she could handle Rumple. Wicked always wins, after all.
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August 27, 2014 at 5:00 pm #281064DaqBrunParticipanthow did the wizard know about regina and Zelena being sisters?
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August 31, 2014 at 12:22 am #281249TheWatcherParticipantNot much of an unanswered question but why exactly was Snow briefly against the idea that Ursula the Sea Goddess was real? O.o Snow lives in a world where fairies fly through the air, trolls live under bridges, and world hopping mermaids swim through the ocean. Snow herself has used magic!! So WHY on Earth is the idea that a half octopus woman gave a magic bracelet to a mermaid such an out of this world concept? Her reaction was extremely rude too. The real world equivalent would go something like this:
Ariel: I prayed last night for an answer to all my troubles and God gave me answer to all troubles 😀
Snow: Wut? Lulz, god izn’t real, mermaid, Y U so cray?
I just find it really odd that in a land full of magic, anyone could find it hard to not believe in ANYTHING .-. What makes it slightly funny is that while Snow goes all “I told you so.. It was Regina, the evil queen all along”, Ursula really was REAL
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
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September 4, 2014 at 7:52 am #281541TheWatcherParticipantDoes Jiminy Cricket speak English? I recall in the first episode of the first season that Jiminy spoke through a huge microphone type thing didn’t he? And then in New York Seranade, he chirps to grumpy who understands him. I know Jiminy spoke English to Snow and the dwarves but if grumpy can speak cricket, im sure the other dwarves can and Snow? Well she can and she talks to birds… Question is, is his voice just really tiny that he cant be understood by normal ears (thus the need for the microphone thing)? Or does he literally talk like a cricket and can only be understood by some? Or am I thinking too hard again?
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