A Land Without Magic

[Slurpeez]

Wow! Tonight’s episode was so epic! My heart went out to Rumpelstiltskin when he thought he’d found his son, Baelfire. He still has his humanity left in him. He went to all that trouble to come to our world, a land without magic. Of course, in some ways, he is even worse than Regina for designing an evil curse in the first place. Yet, the fact that he let August live confirms that Mr. Gold wants Emma to believe in in fairy-tales. Presumably, her belief is a key step to bringing back magic to SB. It must be that Mr. Gold made an antidote to the curse: aka Emma. He said all along that she is key to breaking the curse. I think that when he bottled the hairs from Snow White and Prince Charming, he was designing a savior for everyone to be able to have their happy ending, including him.

[weedith]

This kind of brings us back to the question of what it means for the curse to be broken. It doesn’t seem likely that they will all go back to FTL because then it would all be for naught as far as Rumple is concerned. Are we to believe that Mr Gold has been looking for Bae all along? Or does breaking the curse simply mean they are able to leave Storybrooke so THEN Mr Gold will be able to leave and look for Bae?

[king arthur]

I’m suspecting Rumplestiltskin designed the curse so that they would stay in the “other realm” (i.e. Storybrook) because they need to be in a land without magic. But I think he knew he could only get the EQ to enact the curse if she truly believed it would take away other’s (especially Snow’s) happiness. However, I think he actually still wanted everyone to get their memories back and Emma breaking the curse will so that. Maybe Rumple was not really trying to be benevolent but rather to get revenge against Regina. Either way, he may have figured there would be multiple benefits to having a way to reverse the effects of the curse. But I do suspect, in the end everyone will continue to live in Storybrook even after there memories are back and the curse is broken.

[malchore]

It was mentioned in the initial reaction podcast tonight that the Blue Fairy said words to the effect that “Rumple no longer has a thing he loves most” since Bae was flushed down the portal. (Ha! Flushed.)

So Rumple created the curse and had to manipulate Regina into enacting the curse since Rumple lost the thing he loves most.

[theoniongirl]

Huh. A point, malchore.

Maybe it’s a good thing Belle vanished. 😯 You know?

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“Though lovers be lost love shall not;
And death shall have no dominion.”
-- Dylan Thomas

[king arthur]

I still think he would have tricked Regina into enacting the curse, I don’t think he would have sacrificed Belle.

[Snickerdoodle]

I guess I’m wondering if SB/America — our world, our time — is a land without magic if Emma is there? Emma = magic

Of course, Bae could have come here centuries before the magic was sent here.

[faithful reader]

@sjm wrote:

I guess I’m wondering if SB/America — our world, our time — is a land without magic if Emma is there? Emma = magic

This episode made it clear that magic is not person based, it is location based. Emma has no innert ability to use magic, though she is able to break the curse. Good thing too, becasue I don’t want to know what Goldperstiltskin would do with magic in this world.

Faithful Reader

[hjbau]

I disagree. I think this episode made it clear that Emma does have magic. That is what August said. He needs to get Emma to believe so that he will help him.

[daybreak_fairy]

I’m also a little confuse about our world been a “land without magic”, not only because of the Emma = magic part like sjm said but also because of the curse not been nullified by the “magic doesn’t exist” rules of our world. I thought about this because in “The Return” Gold told August “This knife cannot harness any magic in this world because there is no magic in this world.” So according to him, our world rules nullified the powers of the knife but why didn’t it also nullified the powers of everything else (Emma, curse)!?

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