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My appologies. I didn’t mean to repeat info in my post…Hadn’t seen page 2 😳
I have no doubt that Gold had his memories before Emma came. Afterall- he is the one who procured Henry for Regina 10 years ago. That’s no coincidence!
[adrotate group="5"]I agree that it cannot be a coincidence. I am just hoping that there is some other way that it happened then Rumpel which has gotten old for me.
@hjbau wrote:
I agree that it cannot be a coincidence. I am just hoping that there is some other way that it happened then Rumpel which has gotten old for me.
Well, think of it as part of his long con. In “The Return” the convo he had with Regina, when she pointed out it was his curse that brought them there she asked why he would even want to be there (or something to that effect) and he said she was smart, she should figure it out. So he’s got some plan doesn’t he? Could it be that all of this is because he wants to reunite with his son? In a place where they could both be happy?
In FTL he asked Snow (desperately I might add) the name of their unborn child. I think he had to know it because he knew he needed to know that girl in our world. It was part of the plan. There are more facets to that plan too that make it REALLY interesting, like why he wanted to bottle true love. When talking about true love Rumple said something to the effect of “once you can bottle that then you can do ANYTHING” I think that was part of his plan…
Am I getting too off topic here???
There is no off topic here. I just find it uninteresting if Rumpel just knows everything. And he doesn’t seem to. He thought August was Bae so he doesn’t know who Bae is or where he is in the real world. He is still searching for him. And i think that Rumpel could have a plan without it being necessary that he had has memories for the 28 years everyone was on hold.
I think the reason that Rumpel had both the bottle of love and needed to know Emma’s name is because both of those were needed for him to regain his memories and for Emma to become the breaker of the curse.
@hjbau wrote:
There is no off topic here. I just find it uninteresting if Rumpel just knows everything. And he doesn’t seem to. He thought August was Bae so he doesn’t know who Bae is or where he is in the real world. He is still searching for him. And i think that Rumpel could have a plan without it being necessary that he had has memories for the 28 years everyone was on hold.
I think the reason that Rumpel had both the bottle of love and needed to know Emma’s name is because both of those were needed for him to regain his memories and for Emma to become the breaker of the curse.
YES I agree…in the pilot end scene when Mr.Gold hears Emma’s name, something clicks, i think this was his trigger and he has started to remember his FTL life since…Mr.Gold is a key player and always seems to be one step ahead of everyone but i think he does not know every detail…after all he is in our world now! a land without magic so his power is limited!
Since according to Mr. Gold, Baelfire traveled through time and space, I’m thinking that Bae could still be alive in our world. It is like the time difference between Narnia and our world. Time is relative to where you are in space. Before I heard that disclaimer, I thought it didn’t make any sense for Bae to still be alive, since Rumpelstiltskin is centuries old. I think Bae is likely in our world somewhere, but certainly outside of SB, otherwise Mr. Gold would’ve already found him. I’m also thinking it no longer makes sense for Bae to be in Neverland or Oz, because both lands have magic.
Moreover, “a land without magic” seems to refer to our world. It could be that there are multiple worlds without magic in which Bae could’ve ended up in, but I think that Rumpel would have carefully created the curse to pinpoint which one before he had it enacted. Also, I think Bae is in our world, because there has to be a future reunion between father and son. Every good series needs reconciliation for the main characters, and Rumpel is certainly the most prominent after Emma, SW, PC, and Regina. I do think that Emma, having been born in a land that had magic and escaped the curse, has magic and has brought it back to SB, as Jefferson said in ep. 17.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
@slurpeez108 wrote:
Since according to Mr. Gold, Baelfire traveled through time and space, I’m thinking that Bae could still be alive in our world. It is like the time difference between Narnia and our world. Time is relative to where you are in space. Before I heard that disclaimer, I thought it didn’t make any sense for Bae to still be alive, since Rumpelstiltskin is centuries old. I think Bae is likely in our world somewhere, but certainly outside of SB, otherwise Mr. Gold would’ve already found him. I’m also thinking it no longer makes sense for Bae to be in Neverland or Oz, because both lands have magic.
Moreover, “a land without magic” seems to refer to our world. It could be that there are multiple worlds without magic in which Bae could’ve ended up in, but I think that Rumpel would have carefully created the curse to pinpoint which one before he had it enacted. Also, I think Bae is in our world, because there has to be a future reunion between father and son.
I agree and totally hope there is a happy reunion between them.
@EastOfTheSun wrote:
YES I agree…in the pilot end scene when Mr.Gold hears Emma’s name, something clicks, i think this was his trigger and he has started to remember his FTL life since…Mr.Gold is a key player and always seems to be one step ahead of everyone but i think he does not know every detail…after all he is in our world now! a land without magic so his power is limited!
I’m going to stick my neck out here and say I disagree. I think he has always known and waited patiently for Emma to arrive. I think he was very satisfied when she confirmed her name was Emma to him. He knew to expect her at some point and had been waiting. Otherwise, how would he have known to acquire Henry for Regina. I have to believe he knows and somehow established contacts outside SB, perhaps hiring someone via a phone call to find Emma. Somehow, someway, somebody watched Emma for him to “nab” her child and bring him to SB hoping it would eventually lure her there. If he didn’t remember, then how was that idea set into motion?
I agree though about his power being limited in this world – a land without magic:)
This episode has me asking more questions than all the others combined.
On the question of Emma and magic, I believe she is the key to breaking the curse; but I don’t think she has magic. Unless her magic is to convince the others that FTL exists and that their true identities are these characters.
I was wondering how Regina felt during the 28 year fog. I’m thinking she would have been more frustrated, because although in a fog, Mary Margaret didn’t seem to be unhappy in her new role. We know Gold and Regina could not have been in the 28 year old fog because he got Henry for Regina. On the other hand, if Regina was not in that 28 year old fog, she probably would have figured out Gold wasn’t either fairly quickly.
So now things don’t make as clear a sense to me as before this episode. Regina would have wanted to revel in Mary Margaret’s suffering. Right now I’m not seeing the 28 year old fog over the characters as being a viable option. Not with Henry coming to Storybrooke. Unless the fog is selective, and only acts during certain situations. When someone thinks about leaving, they forget all of a sudden then pop back into that reality. If they notice nothing changes, they forget what they were talking about. A selective short term memory loss. A town fully of Dorys from Finding Nemo.
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