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I’ve been contemplating writing a giant THESE ARE THE RULES post. Let me check with Daniel and Matt with some stuff and I’ll see what i can do. We do have a strike rule and Matt and I use it at our discretion. We can also block people on chat if need be for certain periods of time.
Oh yes please!
I get the feeling that some of us are often on different pages, if not different books altogether, when it comes to rules/decorum n chat, so having everyone on the same page again would be fantastic.
Having said that, from what I’ve ‘seen’ on the chat (while I’m in the forum anyway- you often cant help but see whats going on in chat since it’s right there), is it seems to have calmed down a fair bit lately.
I’m hoping it’ll stay chilled out enough for me to feel ‘safe’ popping my own head in there again (I WANT to talk to everyone- SF, OQ, RB, Snowing (are they shortened to SW?), friggin TinyTinker (if that ever happened/is a thing) shippers &/or no ships at all folk, I just dont want to have to listen to the same people, making the same negative points, about the same person, over & over again is all).
In a weird way, the spoiler that shall not be named has done some good, it has highlighted the need for the fandom to ‘get a grip’ & be ‘ok’ with whatever A&E do do this season- it’s their story, we cant change it- nor do we have a right to feel they are telling it ‘wrong’ (it’s not us making the show) & if we dont like the story they are telling (for whatever reason), we dont have to keep watching it- it’s as simple as that really!
In a weird way, the spoiler that shall not be named has done some good, it has highlighted the need for the fandom to ‘get a grip’ & be ‘ok’ with whatever A&E do do this season- it’s their story, we cant change it- nor do we have a right to feel they are telling it ‘wrong’ (it’s not us making the show) & if we don’t like the story they are telling (for whatever reason), we don’t have to keep watching it- it’s as simple as that really!
This is what I’ve been saying on my tumblr blog. Fans don’t dictate what happens on the show. Adam and Eddie are going to write Once how they want to. It’s their fanfiction.
Other side note: neither side should be happy if ‘x’ or “y” character dies. It’s not going to be a good situation for either side. Because I hate seeing this myth, that it’ll make things all good for their ‘ship and live happily ever after. ‘Cause it’s not . And ultimately, the one it’ll affect the most is Emma, negatively or positively. So both sides need to think about that.
Chat is a weird place in general, at times. It should be a place where everyone can meet and discuss any aspect of the show (or snow 🙂 ) they want, but it can get aggressive quickly.
What makes chat “strange” to me, is that it seems like sometimes people make grand assumptions there than in the threads – ex: If you’re CS you must hate Neal. However, if you pop in the CS thread, you quickly see that the vast majority of posters DON’T hate Neal – and have very nice things to say about him and others. I know I’ve asked people more than once to please take a look and see that it’s not an anti-Neal thread, it’s a pro-CS thread. And the same absolutely goes for the CF thread – I’ve seen many nice things about Hook said there as well; it’s not an anti-Hook thread, it’s a pro-CF thread! However in chat it seems to be a different story.
Or maybe it just seems like it gets aggressive in chat, because as others have said, sometimes people may merely be misunderstood when they’re not trying to be aggressive. I think sometimes just a little clarity – “are we all still good with the conversation?” might help. What aggravates me is that it’s RIGHT THERE. Sometimes I know I’m just not in the right mood to deal and just want to see my shippy goodness but you simply can’t avoid chat. I’m not good at all the web design stuff so I assume it’s a huge task to move it to it’s own page, though, so you can choose when you want to see it and when you don’t.
Chat is a weird place in general, at times—- it just seems like it gets aggressive in chat, because as others have said, sometimes people may merely be misunderstood—– What aggravates me is that it’s RIGHT THERE. Sometimes I know I’m just not in the right mood to deal and just want to see my shippy goodness but you simply can’t avoid chat. I’m not good at all the web design stuff so I assume it’s a huge task to move it to it’s own page, though, so you can choose when you want to see it and when you don’t.
I have to disagree with removing the chat too its own individual page, because speaking from my own perspective, when Im on the chat I also use the different threads and it would be very difficult if we had to go back and forth between the pages to get from a thread and back too the chat.. But perhabs somehow the webpage-builder folk can create a hidding function of a sort? Im not sure if its possible?
I hear what everyone is saying–I do. And there have been improvements in some areas.
1) Matt and I have stressed (over and over) that the spoiler that shall not be named is to be kept either in the specific thread for that spoiler OR in your shipping threads because it’s really a shipping debate going on.
2) Matt and I have asked people to tone down their rhetoric to be respectful. Sometimes this is done privately, as most of our moderating is. So if you don’t see it please don’t assume that it’s not happening. Not saying anyone is assuming, but a gentle reminder that there is a lot going on behind the curtain.
3) The chat: Here’s the issue. This site cannot be designed to please every last person. A lot of people might want the option to hide chat. A lot of people might want an option to have it in a second window. And a lot of people may want us to leave it alone. Daniel has put in tons of time and energy creating this site, but it’s not like it’s going to suit everyone. Matt and I can’t go to Daniel and say, “Person A wants Z and Person B wants X but Person C and D wants neither Z nor X but want W”
The real issue is abiding by the rules we establish as we go along and abiding by the rules we’ve set up from the start. So long as that happens, then I don’t see moving chat or getting rid of chat or hiding chat as an issue. It’s when rules are broken–or perceived to be broken–that issues arise.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"As an outsider, looking in, a nonshipper, I thought everyone was clear on protocols and respecting the common chat. I thought everyone as adults came to a common agreement. I haven’t seen any hurt feelings or disrespect recently. I believe things have toned down dramatically. Maybe I’m wrong, but it seems better to me.
And much respect to you, RG. you do a wonderful job and you deserve a huge thank you. So from one fan to another, Thank you, RG. You’re great at calming the waters. You should use the “ship shipping ships” pic.I read some really disheartening stuff on my tumblr.
One of my fellow CS ‘shippers has been getting repeated death threats from anons. I’m like ?!
This is taking the ‘shipper wars to a dangerous low.
No matter the differences we have and there likely going to be there for a long while, fans should NEVER, EVER send death threats to each other. I feel very protective of all my CS ‘shipmates, so it just boggles my mind when there’s a fan or two out there who does this. Thankfully, this seems to be only isolated on tumblr but this is just, really unacceptable behavior in general.
If your ‘shipper life and happiness is SO dependent on what goes on in a TV show that you fail to see how and why this is wrong, you need to stop watching the show and do something else with your life. No show is ever worth sending death threats to other people across the internet. I hope everyone understands this.
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